All Net Jobs Growth Has Gone To Illegal and Legal Immigrants

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All Net Jobs Growth Has Gone To Illegal and Legal Immigrants

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All of the net gains in in jobs since 2007 have gone to immigrants — both legal and illegal — according to a new report from the Center for Immigration Studies, meaning that fewer native-born Americans are working today than were at the end of 2007.

From November 2007 through November 2014, the number of employed native-born Americans has decreased more than 1.45 million, while the number of employed immigrants has risen by more than 2 million (as the immigrant population grew rapidly, too), according to data compiled by the Department of Labor’s Bureau of Labor Statistics.

“Native employment has still not returned to pre-recession levels, while immigrant employment already exceeds pre-recession levels,” the report says. “Furthermore, even with recent job growth, the number of natives not in the labor force (neither working nor looking for work) continues to increase.”

Native-born Americans accounted for nearly 70 percent of the growth in the population aged 16 and older, the report notes, and yet fewer of them are working now than were in 2007.

Report: All Net Jobs Growth Since 2007 Has Gone to Immigrants
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It seems similar to a wealthy southern aristocrat who purchased 5000 new slaves from the Ivory coast campaigning, "Vote for me. I created 5000 new jobs for the state of Georgia."
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There is a reason why this notoriously racist, conservative pseudo-think tank decided to start with 2007 instead of 2009 with their "report."

Can you guess what that reason is?
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If they begin with 2009 when Obama takes over their "report" wouldn't show that "100% of net increased jobs are immigrants."

The report would read "only 35% of net job gains are by immigrants."

That's right. Since Obama, the majority of net jobs went to natives.
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...the Center for Immigration Studies defines, 'immigrant', as anyone who is not a Native American.
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canpakes wrote:
...the Center for Immigration Studies defines, 'immigrant', as anyone who is not a Native American.


I define immigrant as anyone who does not have ancestors who fought in the Revolutionary war. That's how the land was won and those are the people who earned/won the right to leave this land to their descendants.

Do other countries have borders? Do they all offer unconditional citizenship with full benefits to anyone who comes? What is a country without a border?

Even if we were a nation solely of immigrants, which we're not, the idea that we're therefore obligated to offer citizenship and taxpayer funded social welfare unconditionally to anyone and everyone is ridiculous. Even if you're born a citizen of the US, you only get to keep that citizenship and the rights of citizenship if you fulfill your responsibility of signing up for selective service (the draft) and paying taxes. Legal immigrants currently pay a significant number and amount of fees to the US government for the privilege of citizenship. I'm skeptical of the idea that all illegal immigrants would even take the offer of legal citizenship. Legal citizenship carries more fees and responsibilities than being here illegally which they currently get to do for free.
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ajax18 wrote:I define immigrant as anyone who does not have ancestors who fought in the Revolutionary war. That's how the land was won and those are the people who earned/won the right to leave this land to their descendants.



OMG! I hope you are kidding. Native Americans (the real natives) define immigrant as anyone that showed up from Europe (and elsewhere) in the last 500 years to steal their land.

How many of your ancestors fought for the revolution? You have two ancestors per generation. If you go back 300 years and figure 25 years a generation (2 to the power of 12), you have over 8,000 ancestors to account for. In the rare event that you do have an ancestor that fought in the revolution, you still have 7,999 to explain.

Half of my wife's family can all claim their ancestors have been around in North America for at least 15,000 years.

Makes your statement sound exceedingly dumb.
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Ajax wrote:I define immigrant as anyone who does not have ancestors who fought in the Revolutionary war. That's how the land was won and those are the people who earned/won the right to leave this land to their descendants.


...I'd bet you'd make an exception for any white person without an accent.

Even if you're born a citizen of the US, you only get to keep that citizenship and the rights of citizenship if you fulfill your responsibility of signing up for selective service (the draft) and paying taxes.


I'm sorry, but if my ancestors from the revolution bestowed this land to me then I will do with it what I want. If my parents will me their life savings when they die and I spend it on alcohol, then that is my choice.
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OMG! I hope you are kidding. Native Americans (the real natives) define immigrant as anyone that showed up from Europe (and elsewhere) in the last 500 years to steal their land.


It doesn't matter how the Native Americans define immigrant anymore than how Jefferson Davis defines eligibility to vote in the state of Virginia. The law is written by the conqueror not the conquered. But since you asked, the so called Native Americans conquered their land from other so called Native Americans that walked from northeast Asia to Alaska over a landbridge during the Ice Age and before that came from Africa. And who knows how many people came or how they came to America over the last 20 thousand years. It doesn't legally matter. The right to the land ultimately came from military conquest. The Native Americans certainly don't hold any moral high ground when it comes to whether or not your ancestors took land through military conquest.

How many of your ancestors fought for the revolution?


As far as I'm concerned one is enough. I don't consider myself an immigrant.
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...I'd bet you'd make an exception for any white person without an accent


Than you'd lose your wager.

I'm sorry, but if my ancestors from the revolution bestowed this land to me then I will do with it what I want. If my parents will me their life savings when they die and I spend it on alcohol, then that is my choice.


The point was that neither you nor I even get to set the terms of our citizenship. So why should illegal immigrants get to dictate to a sovereign nation what immigration law should be?
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