The cost of admission

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Servant wrote:Other possibilityies:

1. You come to Christ, are born again, and lead your whole family to Christ. After death, you all are present with the Lord.

2. You don't come to Christ, and He leaves you and your children to burn in Hell forever because He loves you.

3. You don't believe in all that nonsense and you and your family enjoy Sunday activities while everyone else acts insanely in a church.


God sends no man to hell. He offers you all a free gift - the gift of salvation by faith in His Son, Jesus Christ. If men reject that gift, they separate themselves from God.
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Servant wrote:
SteelHead wrote:More likely possibility: Jesus is dead.

Last I knew, the tomb was empty.


Sure.... uh oh.... Jesus ossuary.
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Servant wrote:God sends no man to hell. He offers you all a free gift - the gift of salvation by faith in His Son, Jesus Christ. If men reject that gift, they separate themselves from God.


How does one exactly get to Hell, Servant? And I mean the literal mechanism... Not the choice.

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How does one exactly get to Hell, Servant? And I mean the literally mechanism... Not the choice.

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A person "gets" to Hell by rejecting heaven.
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How about those who were never aware of the choice; accepting or rejecting heaven. Is their final disposition heaven or hell?
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SteelHead wrote:How about those who were never aware of the choice; accepting or rejecting heaven. Is their final disposition heaven or hell?


Simple. If someone who has never heard of Christ wants to go to heaven, and asks God to save him, God will do so.
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Servant wrote:
SteelHead wrote:How about those who were never aware of the choice; accepting or rejecting heaven. Is their final disposition heaven or hell?


Simple. If someone who has never heard of Christ wants to go to heaven, and asks God to save him, God will do so.


And if they died without hearing?
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Re: The cost of admission

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Servant wrote:A person "gets" to Hell by rejecting heaven.


Ok. I'll try this again. A person rejects Jesus so said person has through his choice elected Hell over Heaven. Got it.

How does that person literally get transported to Hell? Who designed the mechanism through which this deliverance happens, and choice aside, how does it happen?

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Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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Re: The cost of admission

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Servant wrote:A person "gets" to Hell by rejecting heaven.


Ok. I'll try this again. A person rejects Jesus so said person has through his choice elected Hell over Heaven. Got it.

How does that person literally get transported to Hell? Who designed the mechanism through which this deliverance happens, and choice aside, how does it happen?

V/R
Doc


Doc, I'm not God. God can put your spirit anyplace He wants. He's omnipotent. At the resurrection, unbelievers will be thrown into the Lake of Fire, along with Satan and his angels.
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And if they died without hearing?

Hearing what? Do you really think God is unable to convict people of sin and the need for salvation - regardless of who they are or where they are? God is omnipotent, and not a evolved humanoid from another planet. That's what Mormons are clearly lacking - they have no grasp on the glory, majesty and power of an eternal, non-contingent God.
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