immigration

[_moksha]

Read for Yourself!
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/09/world/europe/hungarian-journalist-fired-after-abusing-migrants-on-camera.html

That was awful. The man the Hungarian journalist tripped was carrying a little child.

[_ajax18]

HUNGARY PLANS ANOTHER ANTI-MIGRANT FENCE, THIS TIME ALONG ROMANIA BORDER

Hungary plans to build a fence to keep migrants out along part of its border with Romania in addition to the barrier being erected along the frontier with Serbia, Foreign Minister Peter Szijjarto said Tuesday.

“The government has decided to make preparations for the construction of a fence on the Hungary-Romania border, extending from the border triangle of Hungary, Serbia and Romania, for a reasonable distance,” Szijjarto told a press conference in Budapest.

“The measure is necessary as people-smugglers may change their routes because of the existing fence on the Hungary-Serbia border, hence a part of the immigration pressure may get directed towards Romania,” he said, according to state news agency MTI.

Hungary is a member of the European Union (EU) and the passport-free Schengen zone.

Romania is in the EU but not in Schengen, while Serbia is in neither.

Hungarian authorities on Tuesday effectively sealed the border with Serbia, blocking a gap in a razor-wire barrier where many of the migrants passed through, as well as two official border crossing points.

The fence four metres (13 feet) high being built in addition along its entire 175-kilometre (120-mile) border with Serbia is due to be completed by the end of October or early November, the government says.

The measures are part of Prime Minister Viktor Orban’s strategy to stem the flow of migrants — more than 200,000 so far this year — travelling from Greece through the western Balkans and into the EU country, most of them on their way to Germany and elsewhere in the 28-member bloc.

In addition, new laws came into force on Tuesday punishing “illegal border-crossing” with prison terms of up to three years, and the government also intends to deploy the army.

Hungary’s response to the influx has been sharply criticised, with the UN refugee agency saying that criminalising people for crossing the frontier illegally could be in violation of the 1951 Refugee Convention.

French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius has said that the fence being built along the Serbian border does “not respect Europe’s common values.”

Is Hungary a wealthy country? How can they afford this while the US cannot? If the fence on the Serbian border is too cheap to serve as a deterrent, why is Hungary now having to build a fence on the Romanian border because of migrants being detoured to this route?

If most of these people were in fact moving onto Germany soon, why would Hungary go through the expense and criticism of building a fence?

Ludwigm continues to claim we don't know they exist in Hungary, but Breitbart has had several stories about Hungary already.

[_ludwigm]

Something new:

--- water cannons
and
--- tear gas

Search that expressions in English (or in German) language ... there are too many to list for me.

Some of:
New York Times
Financial Times
The Guardian
The Telegraph
The Economist
The Wall Street Journal
Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung
Handelsblatt

I know I know! Leftists and liberals.

And communists...

[_ludwigm]

Péter Szijjártó, our Minister of Foreign Affairs and Trade said:

- Sigmar Gabriel (German Vice-Chancellor and Federal Minister of Economic Affairs and Energy, chairman of the Social Democratic Party of Germany - SPD) is lying
- Werner Fayman (Chancellor of Austria and chairman of the Social Democratic Party of Austria) doesn't know what he is saying
- Victor Ponta (Prime Minister of Romania) is lying
and
- Ban Ki-moon (Secretary-General of the United Nations) is saying outrages and misguides the general public

That is. Foreign affairs showing out from the ass of the godfather...
The mentality of batboys.

[_ajax18]

I think I like Hungary.

Hungary has been slammed by the UN and welfare agencies for its use of water cannon and tear gas against rioting migrants at its closed border on Wednesday. UN Human Rights Commission chief Zeid Ra’ad Al Hussein said that such treatment was “xenophobic and anti-Muslim” adding that Hungary’s tough handling of the crisis had at times violated international law.

Visiting Budapest, the European Commissioner for Migration and Home Affairs, Dimitris Avramopoulos, denounced Hungary’s border fence.

“Walls are temporary solutions,” he said, sitting alongside the Hungarian foreign minister Peter Szijjarto. “This only serves to divert flows or escalate tensions and I think you all agree with me that violence is not the solution either.”

Avramopoulos said: “There is no wall you would not climb, no sea you would not cross if you are fleeing violence and terror.

“We have a moral duty to offer them protection.”

There has also been strong criticism from international medical humanitarian organisation, Doctors Without Borders. It chose to castigate Hungary even though 14 of its officers were injured in the melee after they were attacked with rocks, bricks and assorted makeshift weapons.

As Breitbart London reported, the migrants chanted “Allahu Akbar” while pelting officers, causing police to respond in self defence with water cannon and tear gas.


Despite the criticism Hungary shows no sign of backing down. It is planning to extend its security fence and is urging the EU to do more to tackle the influx at source.

“Let’s establish a common EU force to protect the borders of Greece,” Peter Szijjarto said Thursday.

“We are ready to make a massive national contribution to this. And the EU should take charge of financing refugee camps in Jordan, Lebanon, Iraq and Turkey.

“If new camps are needed, let’s finance those as well to provide decent conditions according to international legal conventions and let’s give EU money for that!”

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/09 ... -migrants/

Szijjarto said that the EU’s common refugee policy had failed to tackle the crisis, which has seen hundreds of thousands of people pour into the continent from sub-Saharan Africa and the Middle East.

[_EAllusion]

What you are praising about Hungary is the policies of a fascist that openly wants to emulate illiberal states like China, Iran, and Russia. He openly declares Putin as an ideal head of state. This is the most honest spectrum of your political views, but it seems like you're supposed to pretend to hate them.

[_Dr. Shades]

ludwigm:

Do you approve or disapprove of the Hungarian border fence?

[_ajax18]

What you are praising about Hungary is the policies of a fascist that openly wants to emulate illiberal states like China, Iran, and Russia. He openly declares Putin as an ideal head of state. This is the most honest spectrum of your political views, but it seems like you're supposed to pretend to hate them.

Whatever the Hungarian government is, they seem to understand that socialism and open borders don't mix very well.

[_ludwigm]

What you are praising about Hungary is the policies of a fascist that openly wants to emulate illiberal states like China, Iran, and Russia. He openly declares Putin as an ideal head of state.

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To be exact, the he above is the FideSS party members' Father God (read as godfather) Viktor Orbán. I hope You know it!

That whole 'illiberal' stupidity is his only product, as every other stupidity in the last years. His batboys have two option. They repeat their master's words - and earn milliards (in HUF...) stolen from thepeople ***, or will kicked. Like Minister of DoD, who did dare doubt that the next fence on Croatian border - only 75 km, ~50 miles - can be deploy in one day. OV didn't worked one day in his life; he was a politician from the first minute on.

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*** it is not spelling error, it tries to model a structure in other language

the people = az emberek in H.
OV pronounces it in every speech as "a zemberek"... as if thepeople would count a bit

[_ludwigm]

Whatever the Hungarian government is, they seem to understand that socialism and open borders don't mix very well.

Socialism?
1. Do You know what is socialism? Do You lived in it for a minute? Did You see it from as near as 1000 km?
2. Hungary - no, not Hungary, only its leaders today - made our country to a mixture of a banana republic, the maffia, and (you may not believe it,) North Korea. Every resource was placed under government control, or was passed to mates. In every position was filled with the mates, cemented for 9-11 years, when vote comes in every FOUR years. If the direction would change, every decree and law will be torpedoed.

That is, guys...

About mates, literally.
A country, where the prime minister, the president, the president of the Parliament (the three highest position) AND the richest "entrepreneur" were roommates in college. The last one are out of phase today, after he called OV a scum, because he didn't get enough...