The Three Nephites, John the Beloved, etc - in conference?

[_SuperDell]

When have we heard anything about The Three Nephites or John the Beloved - all still on earth with the Priesthood - in conference talks?

These four would be important for modern Apostles and Prophets to visit with and learn from.

Why are they ignored?

[_Tobin]

That should tell you something. If there are essentially 4 immortal human-beings on the planet that have seen and spoken with God and they don't feel a need to speak with the leaders of the LDS Church, there might be something wrong with those leaders perhaps (hint: those leaders are pretending to be something they are not).

[_SteelHead]

Or the simpler explanation. Said immortals have already had their heads removed by Connor McCleod

[_Tator]

Or the simpler explanation. Said immortals have already had their heads removed by Connor McCleod

Sweet

[_SteelHead]

There can only be one!

[_kairos]

I was hoping Peter and James would accompany John given that James lost his head (on Herod's order) and it would be easy to point him out in GC. Now the 3 nephites like the 3 amigos would be wearing distinctive clothing perhaps mayan/native American or a combo. Now john the beloved would have difficulty getting to GC in that a first class ticket from Patmos to SLC is about 3000 dollars less apostolic discount and john may not have the cash or a credit card. if he tried to walk it, he would arrive for the 2017 conference with very sore feet.


just speculatin

k

[_Mittens]

Even Mormon scripture denies a total or universal apostasy. The B. of M. III Nephi 28 and the D. & C., Section 7, tell the story of the Apostle John and three "Nephite" apostles who were to remain alive on the earth until the second coming of the Lord! If four apostles have been on earth since the time of Christ, a universal apostasy could not have taken place during that time according to President Joseph Fielding Smith, the 10th Prophet, Seer and Revelator of the LDS Church. He said, "As long as one elder remains on earth today he would have the priesthood and could organize the church even though all of the apostles and first presidency, etc., were killed off" (Latter Day Prophets Speak by David H. Ludlow, p. 213). Can that be true of the LDS Church today and not have been true for the original church after which the LDS Church claims to be patterned? Thus, even if a universal apostasy took place, the four Apostles who never died could have restored the church without Smith's help! But, LDS claim Christ's church ceased to exist after about 100 years while Smith's is still growing after more than 150 years! Did Joseph Smith really build a better church than Jesus Christ?

[_sock puppet]

Even Mormon scripture denies a total or universal apostasy. The B. of M. III Nephi 28 and the D. & C., Section 7, tell the story of the Apostle John and three "Nephite" apostles who were to remain alive on the earth until the second coming of the Lord! If four apostles have been on earth since the time of Christ, a universal apostasy could not have taken place during that time according to President Joseph Fielding Smith, the 10th Prophet, Seer and Revelator of the LDS Church. He said, "As long as one elder remains on earth today he would have the priesthood and could organize the church even though all of the apostles and first presidency, etc., were killed off" (Latter Day Prophets Speak by David H. Ludlow, p. 213). Can that be true of the LDS Church today and not have been true for the original church after which the LDS Church claims to be patterned? Thus, even if a universal apostasy took place, the four Apostles who never died could have restored the church without Smith's help! But, LDS claim Christ's church ceased to exist after about 100 years while Smith's is still growing after more than 150 years! Did Joseph Smith really build a better church than Jesus Christ?

According to JSJr, actually "yes":

Ye burning mountains, roll down your lava! for I will come out on the top at last. I have more to boast of than ever any man had. I am the only man that has ever been able to keep a whole church together since the days of Adam. A large majority of the whole have stood by me. Neither Paul, John, Peter, nor Jesus ever did it. I boast that no man ever did such a work as I. The followers of Jesus ran away from Him; but the Latter-day Saints never ran away from me yet.

[_Mittens]

Do you heed the words of Joseph Smith over Jesus

[_kairos]

Do you heed the words of Joseph Smith over Jesus

thanx mittens- you make a good case for the apologists to try and overturn but it is very appealing to current Mormons who believe the doctrine was mangled early in or just after Joseph Smith and are looking for "truth".

k