Liberals say they don't want to ban Guns... It's a LIE.

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Re: Liberals say they don't want to ban Guns... It's a LIE.

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Kittens_and_Jesus wrote:
ldsfaqs wrote:"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."


I do not think this means what you think it means... In fact I know it doesn't.

https://www.lawfareblog.com/what-ben-fr ... eally-said


And like usual you liberals don't know how to learn and think for yourselves....
Read the responces to the article, including one of my own.

The article is a complete farce.
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Re: Liberals say they don't want to ban Guns... It's a LIE.

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The Erotic Apologist wrote:
ldsfaqs wrote:So facinating how liberals falsely apply to others what they themselves in fact are.
YOUare the one who believes an imaginary threat to your gun rights is more important than the deaths of ten people, not me.


So.... Obama references as shinning examples of gun free Utopia two major Democracy's that have enacted near TOTAL Gun Ban's, and yet in your warped liberal mind you somehow believe that liberals threatening gun rights here in the U.S. is "imaginary"?

You believe cars, something that is a convenience entirely, not a "necessity", that kills more children alone than guns do of all people is "more important" than the deaths of those children or people.

So, tell me again how you are on the "moral and caring high ground" over me? You're not even close to it.

Further, guns save lives also..... so can cars by getting someone to the Hospital, a rare thing, just like having to use a gun for self defense or to fight against tyrants is a rare thing, but that doesn't change the fact that like the right to travel, having a gun is also a human right, it is a Civil Right, the right to defend oneself is a base human right. Common sense people would understand that I actually care about people MORE because I would allow them to have the chance to live, to not be raped, to save their children, to save another human being being harmed. But you in your warped liberals mind thinks that taking away peoples rights is "caring" for them, because YOU know better. Further, you're a liar..... You claim to carry a gun. Bull.... No person who believes in self defense enough to carry a gun would spout the crap you do.

I challenge you to prove it. Simply take a picture of your concelled carry permit in front of your computer screen showing your username on this forum. Use an image editor to cross out any personal information for your "safety" LOL.
You guys called me a liar when I stated things about my past, so twice I've proven what I've said is true.
So, you do the same..... Otherwise, I call you a liar.

Of course, it's always possible that you're a "Security Guard" with insecurity powertrip complex. LOL Even I have never "carried" a gun yet in my life, though I do plan to when I get thin again.

Oh and another thing..... Tell me how liberals aren't trying to ban guns when one they HAVE certain types, but not only that, certain States and City's of America have various degrees of bans and restrictions, all the way up to near TOTAL gun bans such as Washington DC did have and New York basically has also and California nearly the same?

by the way, you'll note how you again didn't deal with the "substance" of my post, but personally attacked, like you people always do, over and over again.
At least when I'm personal, it's toward an actual wrong, and I explain it, and make clear why it's wrong. You people just attack because you're bigoted emotional fools.

Anyway, I'm sympathetic to the loss of life, just as I am in ANY other situation in which lives are lost.
But, like we don't ban cars or anything else people want to do and have in life, guns also have no business or right being banned.
It's a question of good and evil, right and wrong, and freedom over tryanny as well as life over death.
Your liberal intellectual elite icons who you vote for, and love being in office, worship at the alter of history two of the worst murders in history, not war dead, but outright murder. Do you think those people would have liked to have had a gun to defend themselves, their community's, their family's.

You speak of morality and caring about others.... you the liberal don't know the meaning of the word. You give it lip service, just like you willingly allow the murder of a baby in the incubator that is the womans womb. You don't know what real love is, what real heart is to accept such an etter EVIL.
So, spare me your bigoted and ignorant and evil santimony.... God will spit you out of his mouth.....
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Ya..... This is ALL in my "imagination".....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeCMqFYpd0k

There's an exact video like the above but for the UK when they enacted their gun ban, but I can't find it atm.


Stormtrooper: Let me see your identification.
Ben Obi-Wan Kenobi: [with a small wave of his hand] You don't need to see his identification.
Stormtrooper: We don't need to see his identification.
Ben Obi-Wan Kenobi: These aren't the droids you're looking for.
Stormtrooper: These aren't the droids we're looking for.
Ben Obi-Wan Kenobi: He can go about his business.
Stormtrooper: You can go about your business.
Ben Obi-Wan Kenobi: Move along.
Stormtrooper: Move along... move along.

Han Solo: Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid.

So, be like the Stormtrooper, or be like Hans, instead of believing in your "hokey liberal religion" that the State will protect you.

Or try Military.com
http://www.military.com/video/guns/smal ... 480805001/
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Oh and another thing..... Tell me how liberals aren't trying to ban guns when one they HAVE certain types, but not only that, certain States and City's of America have various degrees of bans and restrictions, all the way up to near TOTAL gun bans such as Washington DC did have and New York basically has also and California nearly the same?


You're conflating NYCs handgun law with NY state gun law, but given the depth of ignorance you display here on a regular basis I can't say I'm surprised.
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MissTish wrote:
Oh and another thing..... Tell me how liberals aren't trying to ban guns when one they HAVE certain types, but not only that, certain States and City's of America have various degrees of bans and restrictions, all the way up to near TOTAL gun bans such as Washington DC did have and New York basically has also and California nearly the same?


You're conflating NYCs handgun law with NY state gun law, but given the depth of ignorance you display here on a regular basis I can't say I'm surprised.


I said New York.... I didn't say which one. Anyone that knows anything about the issue knows which one.
It's also very common for people to just say New York when talking about one or the other, so get over yourself being an offender for a word.
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This tweet is a few months old, but it bears repeating.

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MissTish wrote:This tweet is a few months old, but it bears repeating.

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Maybe the folks that created those Planned Parenthood videos could assemble a photo montage of the children's bodies mangled by semi-automatic weapons. Visuals seem to have an impact that words don't.
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Brad Hudson wrote: Visuals seem to have an impact that words don't.
Say this to Shades, please...
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The Erotic Apologist wrote:We??? You certainly don't speak for me. I don't want you on my side, loser.

Exactly.

I know plenty of responsible gun owners, and I wouldn't think it fair to take their guns away. But if the extreme idiot gun lobby keeps pushing "it's a mental health issue!" why do they refuse to strengthen background checks?

Because they feel like if they give up any ground, big bad Obama will will come take their guns away.

damned morons.
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Some Schmo wrote:
The Erotic Apologist wrote:We??? You certainly don't speak for me. I don't want you on my side, loser.

Exactly.

I know plenty of responsible gun owners, and I wouldn't think it fair to take their guns away. But if the extreme idiot gun lobby keeps pushing "it's a mental health issue!" why do they refuse to strengthen background checks?

Because they feel like if they give up any ground, big bad Obama will will come take their guns away.

f*****g morons.


I ask myself why this country isn't improving delivery of mental healthcare services. Mental health is definitely an issue and all we're addressing are guns.
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