Show me the money!

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ludwigm wrote:
Quasimodo wrote:
If you had just two of these you would be richer than Trump (sorta):
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It is nothing, as it is only 5 billion.
Warning! European billion, which is 1,000,000,000,000 - 10^12. Today it is called trillion in US, same logic that is calling the middle schools as high...

From 1927 to 1946 we had the pengő [ˈpɛŋɡøː].
The Hungarian participle pengő means 'ringing' (which in turn derives from the verb peng, an onomatopoeic word equivalent to English 'ring') and was used from the 15–17th century to refer to silver coins making a ringing sound when struck on a hard surface, thus indicating their precious metal content.

At end of WWII, there was the biggest hyperinflation of the history.
In a half year, appeared the milpengő (one million pengő) then the bilpengő (one billion pengő; long scale, 10^12).
The biggest denomination was one milliard bilpengő, that is, 10^21 pengő. 21 zeroes, call it as You want.
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The Hungarian economy could only be stabilized by the introduction of a new currency, and therefore, on 1 August 1946, the forint was reintroduced at a rate of 400 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 = 4×10^29 pengő, dropping 29 zeros from the old currency

Then the mil- and bil- banknotes were swept.
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Then having two of those German notes would make you a thousand times richer than Trump (sorta). :biggrin:
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If you have any banker friends or family, Zimbabwe inflation notes are pretty easy to come buy in pristine condition. Nothing says "Happy Birthday" to someone in finance quite like a 50 Trillion Dollar bill.

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Doctor Steuss wrote:If you have any banker friends or family, Zimbabwe inflation notes are pretty easy to come buy in pristine condition. Nothing says "Happy Birthday" to someone in finance quite like a 50 Trillion Dollar bill.

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My son served his mission in Zimbabwe. That $50 Trillion note wouldn't even buy a loaf of bread.
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The CCC wrote:. That $50 Trillion note wouldn't even buy a loaf of bread.

Especially, because it is only $50 billion...
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ludwigm wrote:
The CCC wrote:. That $50 Trillion note wouldn't even buy a loaf of bread.

Especially, because it is only $50 billion...


The Exchange Rate will get you every time. :lol:
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Doesn't the Sacajawea coin count as a woman on currency? Or no? I don't remember people losing their minds over it.
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just me wrote:Doesn't the Sacajawea coin count as a woman on currency? Or no? I don't remember people losing their minds over it.

I think the fact that it's the $20, the official currency of the ATM. When (most) people get money, it's twenties. And every time you do from now on, there's going to be a colored woman's image on that bill.

Now if Harriet Tubman had been responsible for the Trail of Tears, I don't think anyone would be clamoring to have her image on the $20.

John Burnett, was a 19 year-old Private in the United States Army in 1839 serving in a mounted infantry battalion assigned to the Cherokee Indian Relocation. Haunted by the events he witnessed half a century ago, he wrote a letter to his children in 1890. Some excerpts:

John Burnett wrote:Children:
This is my birthday, December 11, 1890, I am eighty years old today...

In the year 1828, a little Indian boy living on Ward creek had sold a gold nugget to a white trader, and that nugget sealed the doom of the Cherokees. In a short time the country was overrun with armed brigands claiming to be government agents, who paid no attention to the rights of the Indians who were the legal possessors of the country. Crimes were committed that were a disgrace to civilization. Men were shot in cold blood, lands were confiscated. Homes were burned and the inhabitants driven out by the gold-hungry brigands.

Chief Junaluska was personally acquainted with President Andrew Jackson. Junaluska had taken 500 of the flower of his Cherokee scouts and helped Jackson to win the battle of the Horse Shoe, leaving 33 of them dead on the field. And in that battle Junaluska had drove his tomahawk through the skull of a Creek warrior, when the Creek had Jackson at his mercy.

Chief John Ross sent Junaluska as an envoy to plead with President Jackson for protection for his people, but Jackson’s manner was cold and indifferent toward the rugged son of the forest who had saved his life. He met Junaluska, heard his plea but curtly said, “Sir, your audience is ended. There is nothing I can do for you.” The doom of the Cherokee was sealed. Washington, D.C., had decreed that they must be driven West and their lands given to the white man, and in May 1838, an army of 4000 regulars, and 3000 volunteer soldiers under command of General Winfield Scott, marched into the Indian country and wrote the blackest chapter on the pages of American history.

Men working in the fields were arrested and driven to the stockades. Women were dragged from their homes by soldiers whose language they could not understand. Children were often separated from their parents and driven into the stockades with the sky for a blanket and the earth for a pillow. And often the old and infirm were prodded with bayonets to hasten them to the stockades.

In one home death had come during the night. A little sad-faced child had died and was lying on a bear skin couch and some women were preparing the little body for burial. All were arrested and driven out leaving the child in the cabin. I don’t know who buried the body.

In another home was a frail mother, apparently a widow and three small children, one just a baby. When told that she must go, the mother gathered the children at her feet, prayed a humble prayer in her native tongue, patted the old family dog on the head, told the faithful creature good-by, with a baby strapped on her back and leading a child with each hand started on her exile. But the task was too great for that frail mother. A stroke of heart failure relieved her sufferings. She sunk and died with her baby on her back, and her other two children clinging to her hands.

Chief Junaluska who had saved President Jackson’s life at the battle of Horse Shoe witnessed this scene, the tears gushing down his cheeks and lifting his cap he turned his face toward the heavens and said, “Oh my God, if I had known at the battle of the Horse Shoe what I know now, American history would have been differently written.”

At this time, 1890, we are too near the removal of the Cherokees for our young people to fully understand the enormity of the crime that was committed against a helpless race. Truth is, the facts are being concealed from the young people of today. School children of today do not know that we are living on lands that were taken from a helpless race at the bayonet point to satisfy the white man’s greed.

...The removal of Cherokee Indians from their life long homes in the year of 1838 found me a young man in the prime of life and a Private soldier in the American Army. Being acquainted with many of the Indians and able to fluently speak their language, I was sent as interpreter into the Smoky Mountain Country in May, 1838, and witnessed the execution of the most brutal order in the History of American Warfare. I saw the helpless Cherokees arrested and dragged from their homes, and driven at the bayonet point into the stockades. And in the chill of a drizzling rain on an October morning I saw them loaded like cattle or sheep into six hundred and forty-five wagons and started toward the west...

On the morning of November the 17th we encountered a terrific sleet and snow storm with freezing temperatures and from that day until we reached the end of the fateful journey on March the 26th, 1839, the sufferings of the Cherokees were awful. The trail of the exiles was a trail of death. They had to sleep in the wagons and on the ground without fire. And I have known as many as twenty-two of them to die in one night of pneumonia due to ill treatment, cold, and exposure. Among this number was the beautiful Christian wife of Chief John Ross. This noble hearted woman died a martyr to childhood, giving her only blanket for the protection of a sick child. She rode thinly clad through a blinding sleet and snow storm, developed pneumonia and died in the still hours of a bleak winter night, with her head resting on Lieutenant Greggs saddle blanket.

I made the long journey to the west with the Cherokees and did all that a Private soldier could do to alleviate their sufferings. When on guard duty at night I have many times walked my beat in my blouse in order that some sick child might have the warmth of my overcoat. I was on guard duty the night Mrs. Ross died. When relieved at midnight I did not retire, but remained around the wagon out of sympathy for Chief Ross, and at daylight was detailed by Captain McClellan to assist in the burial like the other unfortunates who died on the way. Her unconfined body was buried in a shallow grave by the roadside far from her native home, and the sorrowing Cavalcade moved on.

4,000 Cherokee died on the Trail of Tears.

So yes, I would rather the face of the twenty be a black woman who freed slaves rather than a white man who not only kept them but also exemplified the worst aspects of American racism and Manifest Destiny.
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MeDotOrg wrote:..
And every time you do from now on, there's going to be a colored woman's image on that bill.

See, this is a great example of how liberals manipulate their inept decisions.
No one cares that she is non-white, or that she is a she. Bit any person who disagrees with the choice must be anti-non-white or anti-woman.
First, why change the 20 at all?
Washington owned slaves, Franklin participated in child labor, Hamilton was....well....Kennedy was a mysoginistic adulterer ..and on and on and on

So, while the Fed is actually trying to pull a 2-for-1 on being political, the reality is that Harriet is becoming a symbol of the usual Democratic/liberal exploitation...nothing says "equality" better than being on money.
Apart from the side topic of why any person is emblazoned on money it should be repulsive to either "party" and arguably even less so for a Democrat.
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just me wrote:Doesn't the Sacajawea coin count as a woman on currency? Or no? I don't remember people losing their minds over it.

On coinage, there's also the (short-lived) Susan B. Anthony dollar. Then there's commemorative coins that are done each year, that are legal currency. The Dolly Madison dollar is a fairly popular one amongst collectors. There's also a gold coin line of all of the First Ladies (this year's releases are going to be Pat Nixon, Betty Ford, and Nancy Reagan).

Not to mention the myriad of "nameless" women, such as the Morgan dollar, Peace dollar, the Barber coins, the nickel Trime, the V nickel (which has a fun little bit of history -- i.e. the idiom of "just Joshing you"), etc.

What's really cool (to me) that I don't think most people know, is that there have been African Americans honored on coinage before too. In 1946, there was a Booker T. Washington commemorative half dollar issued. In 1952, there was the George Washington Carver commemorative half. Incredibly, these coins required the approval of congress to be issued. :eek:
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Doctor Steuss wrote:
just me wrote:Doesn't the Sacajawea coin count as a woman on currency? Or no? I don't remember people losing their minds over it.

On coinage, there's also the (short-lived) Susan B. Anthony dollar. Then there's commemorative coins that are done each year, that are legal currency. The Dolly Madison dollar is a fairly popular one amongst collectors. There's also a gold coin line of all of the First Ladies (this year's releases are going to be Pat Nixon, Betty Ford, and Nancy Reagan).

Not to mention the myriad of "nameless" women, such as the Morgan dollar, Peace dollar, the Barber coins, the nickel Trime, the V nickel (which has a fun little bit of history -- i.e. the idiom of "just Joshing you"), etc.

What's really cool (to me) that I don't think most people know, is that there have been African Americans honored on coinage before too. In 1946, there was a Booker T. Washington commemorative half dollar issued. In 1952, there was the George Washington Carver commemorative half. Incredibly, these coins required the approval of congress to be issued. :eek:


Thanks for the awesome history lesson. That's very cool stuff.
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