Romney (sore loser) - should he leave the party?

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Romney (sore loser) - should he leave the party?

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SALT LAKE CITY — Mitt Romney isn't going to the Republican National Convention that will officially nominate Donald Trump as the party's presidential candidate, an aide confirmed Thursday.

"Gov. Romney has no plans to attend the convention," an aide to the Republican Party's 2012 nominee told the Deseret News.

Romney, who helped lead the so-called "Stop Trump" movement through a series of public statements against the billionaire businessman and reality TV star, had not been expected to go to Cleveland for the July convention.

He has not commented on Trump's new status as the GOP's presumptive nominee, the result of Texas Sen. Ted Cruz and Ohio Gov. John Kasich ending their campaigns after big losses in Indiana's primary Tuesday.

In March, Romney labeled Trump a fraud and a phony in a widely covered speech at the University of Utah. Later, Romney urged his fellow Utah Republicans to help defeat Trump by voting for Cruz in their March 22 presidential preference caucus.

In a Facebook post just before the Utah GOP caucus announcing he would vote for Cruz, Romney said the choice was between Republicanism and what he called "Trumpism."

"Through the calculated statements of its leader, Trumpism has become associated with racism, misogyny, bigotry, xenophobia, vulgarity and, most recently, threats and violence. I am repulsed by each and every one of these," Romney posted.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/8656 ... ntion.html

Given he is repulsed by his party's nominee, shouldn't Romney now show the courage of his convictions rather than behaving like a poor loser?
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Re: Romney (sore loser) - should he leave the party?

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Why does anyone care what Mitt Romney thinks? He holds no position.
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ajax18 wrote:Why does anyone care what Mitt Romney thinks? He holds no position.


Both of the former Republican Presidents still alive also won't be endorsing Trump either.

Former Republican presidents will not endorse Trump

Bush 41, 43 won't be endorsing Trump

Donald Trump may be trying to consolidate his party’s support but there are two big names he shouldn’t count on.

Spokesmen for former presidents George H.with. Bush and George with. Bush told The Texas Tribune the Bushes won't be on the list of Trump endorsers.

“At age 91, President Bush is retired from politics,” a spokesman for Bush 41 told The Texas Tribune. “He came out of retirement to do a few things for Jeb, but those were the exceptions that proved the rule.”

And his son Bush 43? No plans either.



And there is also GOP Senator Ben Sasse of Nebraska who will not be endorsing Trump either.

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/ben-sasse-go ... p-movement

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ben-sasse-u- ... 56310.html
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What good is it doing anyone to refuse to support the eventual nominee and help elect Hillary Clinton?
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Can you hear that? It's the sound of the GOP exploding.

This latest exchange between Paul Ryan and Drumpf is pretty huge, I'd say. Ryan said he couldn't support Drumpf yet, and Donald fired back saying he couldn't support Ryan. This is the most powerful Republican in office saying he can't back his party's presumptive nominee, and Drumpf responding, Screw you.

Un... precedented.
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Is this where Subgenius comes in and explains the election results prove that Trump has no need to worry about Republican splitters?
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"Turn out the lights, the party's over" (sung with a good old Southern twang). The GOP will never be the same again. I think two parties will emerge at some point (I don't know when).

The smart Republicans (old guard) and the informationally challenged Republicans (Tea Party-ish). The rift is too wide now for the GOP to heal itself.

Mitt will be a strong voice in the smart Republican faction. Trump (or whomever) will be a strong voice in the other. They will each have to come up with new sobriquets. Smarts might keep GOP. Tea Baggers might go with GNP (Grand New Party).

Neither group will have much electoral success for a very long time.
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The old bromide 'politics makes strange bedfellows' will get a good workout this summer in Cleveland. You are going to see some of the most qualified and cautious endorsements in the history of the party.

Possible party name change: GNP for Grand New Party. Also has that 'Gross National Product' cache.

My nominee for the man I would least like to be: Reince Priebus (His name sounds like a mayor of Trantor from the Foundation Trilogy.) That man is going to field some weird phone calls in the next few months.


Charles Dudley Warner, the man who coined 'strange bedfellows' also said:
It is fortunate that each generation does not comprehend its own ignorance.
We are thus enabled to call our ancestors barbarous.


...seems kind of appropriate nowadays...
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EAllusion wrote:Is this where Subgenius comes in and explains the election results prove that Trump has no need to worry about Republican splitters?

Nope, this is where i point out the obvious fact of how "historical trends" are failing to predict accurately this election cycle (and how this same situation occurred in 2008 with Clinton and Obama where Obama lacked the credible endorsements until well after).
For example, endorsements have usually been great predictors for candidate primary success
"political scientists evaluated data on endorsements made in presidential nomination contests between 1980 and 2004 and found that “early endorsements in the invisible primary are the most important cause of candidate success in the state primaries and caucuses.”
...yet while Rubio, Cruz, and Kasich all outscored Trump on these "early endorsements" the reality has contradicted the prediction.
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/201 ... t-primary/

So, now the obvious part....you are sorely uninformed about reality. Your hope that Republicans will lay down and allow a Clinton presidency is admirable but it is unlikely to be fulfilled.

But i recommend that we wait to see whom the Republican party nominates.
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Re: Romney (sore loser) - should he leave the party?

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That should be fun to watch. The Republican leadership going against the Republican base.
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