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[_Amore]

I am missing NOM a whole bunch right now. It was a place for me to express my own Mormonism. It was the kind of place where each person could bring their understanding of the Church's truth and then say, "Let's see what we could add or subtract to it to make it a set of beliefs palatable and authentic for ourselves."

Sure there are other Mormon boards, but it is too easy for some of my fellow Mormons to shut down discussions that have the potential of removing the sugar coating from history and doctrine. Moderators on these boards can run amok and ban people willy-nilly. Of course, there are legitimate reasons for banning some posters for being abusive, but not for courteous discourse or light-heartedness.

NOM was able to escape that censorious Mormon factor, although I would have let Zadok skate on any anti-feminism charges simply because he was a great person and brought cheer to the board. The whole measure of a person needs to be looked at through the lens of love and Zadok measured up quite well.

This board has hardly any censorship and that is a tribute to Dr. Shades. On the other hand, it can sometimes feel so anti-Mormon that it can be uncomfortable.

If NOM doesn't regenerate, I hope Amore is right that something else will come along and fill that empty niche. Someplace that would open its arms to those still affiliated with the Church, but who would be booted out of MD&D.

Addendum - Underneath the NOM Forum index page of Google it reads: This site may be hacked. Hacked again?

I appreciate your perspective, on many things, Moksha.

I got kicked off NOM for something trivial - a few years ago. Basically it was for posting a pm from someone on NOM sending me private threats on another forum. I felt very hurt - like the moderators were shunning me for not believing as they did (same cult mentality, different cult) and supporting bulling because the bully believed as they did.

[_cwald]

I agree.

I got kicked off NOM for something trivial - a few years ago. Basically it was for posting a pm from someone on NOM sending me private threats on another forum. I felt very hurt - like the moderators were shunning me for not believing as they did (same cult mentality, different cult) and supporting bulling because the bully believed as they did.

I think the rules are pretty specific, one is not allowed to post PMs on the public forum without permission? I don't remember this incident. What was your avatar and screen name?

I have a lot of respect for the NOM mods. StayLDS, not so much. Interesting we have one poster here claiming that NOM has evolved into a bunch of atheists heathens, and another one complaining the mods are out of control and banning people who don't follow the mission statement and just another cult. Hmmm? Damned if you do, damned if don't I guess

[_Amore]

I agree.
I got kicked off NOM for something trivial - a few years ago.
Basically it was for posting a pm from someone on NOM sending me private threats on another forum.
I felt very hurt - like the moderators were shunning me for not believing as they did (same cult mentality, different cult) and supporting bulling because the bully believed as they did.

I think the rules are pretty specific, one is not allowed to post PMs on the public forum without permission? I don't remember this incident. What was your avatar and screen name?

I have a lot of respect for the NOM mods. StayLDS, not so much. Interesting we have one poster here claiming that NOM has evolved into a bunch of atheists heathens, and another one complaining the mods are out of control and banning people who don't follow the mission statement and just another cult. Hmmm? Damned if you do, damned if don't I guess

Leadership roulette again, I guess.

The NOM rules don't prevent you from posting pm's from other forums, only NOM.
Also, the guy found in my profile a link to another forum, stocked me there and was sending harassing threats to me over and over, secretly on that other forum. He needed to be exposed, and once I exposed him, he sent me one more threat for exposing him and then stopped.
So, I feel I handled it in the right way.
One mod seemed to sympathize with me, but another didn't and banned me.
Another mod disciplined me for sharing my belief in God.

I realize I can be a bit outspoken, but I generally try to follow the rules (except for worshipping church leaders as if infallible).

[_deacon blues]

I had 100's of posts on NOM before anyone called me out. Here on MD Tobin (blessed his furry heart) called me out on my very first post. It took a while to get use to the "call your own fouls" policy here, but I do enjoy it, and sometimes it's flipping funny.

[_souldier]

So any update? Has Thayne decided to turn off the lights for good? I wandered in and out, gonna miss it.

[_moksha]

I did a little searching and found this post by Thane at the StayLDS forum:

Two things happened.

First, the primary domain that controls NOM, was allowed to expire. This was mostly intentional as I had no desire to maintain it. The mistake was in not replacing it with another domain, which I need to do soon. Some/many of the annoying things like avatars missing and email are related to this issue.

Second, some of the sub-domains, including NOM were 'hacked', if you can call it that. Pretty tepid effort by internet standards. Or maybe they were just getting started. In any case, that was easily fixed by restoring the code from backup, and things like the footer and the admin page came back.

Still to do, work with the hosting company to fix the first issue. Update all the software to patch security holes. Evict some ancient domains. Find a new Prophet, Seer and Revelator for this place.

I'll update again when I've fixed the domain problem.

Cheers,

Thayne also mentioned that the hack originated at a click farm out of Poland, but he failed to specify whether the farms funding came from 50 E. South Temple. It doesn't sound like the past posts were archived, which shows how temporary history has become in the age of electronic storage.

I remember how many of the MAD board posts were cleansed when there was a concern that an important witness for the prosecution in the Elizabeth Smart Kidnapping trial might have his testimony impugned over stuff that had been posted there. That was a needless worry.


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