Oaks has revelation about adults thinking for themselves...

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SALT LAKE CITY —Possible changes and flexibility in the daily schedules of the LDS Church's full-time missionaries were announced Wednesday in a meeting broadcast to missionaries and missionary training centers worldwide.

Mormon missionaries — in counsel with their respective mission presidents — now can customize their schedules to accommodate safety, local culture, health, productivity and other circumstances.

Another policy change announced at the meeting was a simplification of how missionaries report their productivity — the information known as "key indicators."

The changes were approved by the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Currently, more than 71,000 missionaries are serving in the church's 422 missions.

“The most significant change in the schedule is to give the missionaries and also mission presidents the latitude to make the necessary decisions and adjustments in the daily work of the missionary,” said Elder Dallin H. Oaks of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, who presides over the church's Missionary Executive Council.

Members of that council participated in Wednesday's two-hour training meeting, speaking of doctrine and principles regarding missionaries teaching, serving and inviting others to learn of the gospel of Jesus Christ as well as the missionaries' own personal growth and development.

Presently, the church's guidelines have missionaries arising at 6:30 a.m., with exercise, showering and dressing, breakfast and a series of study sessions occurring prior to leaving their residence for the day's proselyting. Typically, missionaries are to return to their living quarters by 9 p.m., conduct a planning session and retire to bed by 10:30 p.m.

A missionary's schedule now can be more flexible, depending on the culture of the region and country where the missionary is serving. For example, missionaries serving in Latin America may end up arising later and returning to their residence later, while in some African nations, their counterparts may get up earlier and return earlier.

Other adjustments included moving daily planning to the missionaries' morning schedule, with companionship study, language study and new missionary training allowed to be done both later in the day and outside of the missionaries' living quarters.

In addition to flexibility in daily schedules, the missionary's once-a-week "preparation day" has been adjusted with more flexibility and additional time for laundry, shopping, emailing or writing family and mission president, exercising and participating in recreational activities. Morning study time was tightened to just daily planning and personal study, with companion study, language study and new missionary training not required as part of the preparation day schedule.
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865671866/Changes-in-LDS-missionaries-daily-schedules-preparation-day.html

I wonder what issue(s) have driven this decision?
It's worth noting that 18-20 year olds the world over have for generations been making the decisions for themselves akin to what 15 old white men in Utah will now allow Mormon 18-20 year olds to make.

Bednar chips in with his usual high level of prophetic insight...
Added Elder David A. Bednar of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles: “I think one other thing that’s intriguing about this is that this is a worldwide church and one size doesn’t fit all. So to be able to make that adjustment in areas and missions I think is very significant.”
Wow.

But one thing isn't changing, it remains a MLM sales operation...
Missionaries will see a simplification of the key indicators of their proselyting and productivity. Those reporting numbers will focus solely on those who have been taught, baptized and confirmed; those being taught who have a baptismal date; those being taught who attend sacrament meeting; and new investigators.
“When we are confronted with evidence that challenges our deeply held beliefs we are more likely to reframe the evidence than we are to alter our beliefs. We simply invent new reasons, new justifications, new explanations. Sometimes we ignore the evidence altogether.” (Mathew Syed 'Black Box Thinking')
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I have a question wrote:Oaks has revelation about adults thinking for themselves...
And where does it say that they were not able to think for themselves before?
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zerinus wrote:
I have a question wrote:Oaks has revelation about adults thinking for themselves...
And where does it say that they were not able to think for themselves before?

They were able. Just not allowed.
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I have a question wrote:Oaks has revelation about adults thinking for themselves...

zerinus wrote:And where does it say that they were not able to think for themselves before?

Lemmie wrote:They were able. Just not allowed.

Another one bites the dust.

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Mormon missionaries — in counsel with their respective mission presidents — now can customize their schedules to accommodate safety, local culture, health, productivity and other circumstances.

1. Previously, by implication, they were expected to stick to the one-size-fits-all schedule regardless of safety, local culture, health, productivity or other circumstances.
2. But now (after how many years?) they can have a little leeway to suggest a change.
They still need their mission President to approve changes.
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DrW wrote:When will Z ever learn?
When will he ever learn?
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In terms of my question about what issue they believe they are addressing with this seismic shift to a situation where missionaries are allowed to decide what time of the day they study the scriptures...and I think the article gives us a clue.

The policy change is expected to improve the health and productivity of the missionaries, not only as they serve but leading to post-mission benefits as well, the leaders said.

“It will allow missionaries after the mission to make that smooth transition into their life and have that same flexibility as they have those same goals to continue to pray and to read their scriptures and to remain close to the Lord in their life,” said Elder Brent H. Nielson, a member of the Quorums of the Seventy and executive director of the LDS Church’s Missionary Department.


Too many missionaries coming home early/coming home and rebelling against the regime that dictated their every waking hour for two years?
“When we are confronted with evidence that challenges our deeply held beliefs we are more likely to reframe the evidence than we are to alter our beliefs. We simply invent new reasons, new justifications, new explanations. Sometimes we ignore the evidence altogether.” (Mathew Syed 'Black Box Thinking')
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As per Elder Bednar. The thought of a church where one size doesn't fit all is intriguing. Where do such intriguing thoughts originate? :rolleyes:
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Interesting. In 1989-1990, Argentina Buenos Aires South already had rewritten the rules about daily schedules. The big wrench in the program there was the siesta--from noon to 3:30, everything closes down. During that time there is almost nobody on the streets. The retail stores are all closed. In that culture, knocking on somebody's door uninvited at 2:00 p.m. is just as unthinkably offensive as knocking on their door at 2:00 a.m.

So the mission rules were changed to respect that. From noon to 3:30 have lunch, hopefully with a member or investigator, and then go back to your pench and enjoy the siesta. To make up for that lost time, we were instructed to actively try to stay out on the streets until 10:30 p.m., but if we could stay busy with productive appointments after that, we could stay out even later. The normal dinner time there is about 10:00 p.m., so it wasn't weird to here somebody on a work night say, "come over for dinner at 10:00 p.m., and we can have the discussion after that." So it wasn't unheard of back then for the missionaries not to come home until after midnight. If we didn't have anything else to do we could go home at 9:30 p.m., but never earlier.

It's kind of funny. That mission president was a very strict by-the-book kind of guy. The white Bible said don't call home and made no exceptions for Christmas or Mothers' Day or whatever. So we were told to read it as-is--never call home. So rewriting this rule there wasn't something he'd do just for kicks--he did it because it was absolutely necessariy in that culture. He was nearly 30 years ahead of his time in terms of making practical decisions about how to go about being a missionary. It's amazing how slow the guys in SLC are to figure out the most obvious things.
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God must be suffering from major migraine headaches having to spend so much of his infinite time micromanaging crap like this as "revelations".
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