Yet another tweet from President: Charlie Gard

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Yet another tweet from President: Charlie Gard

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This one is different.

If we can help little #CharlieGard, as per our friends in the U.K. and the Pope, we would be delighted to do so.
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Now before folks go off half cocked and accuse Trump of grandstanding, he has at least some history of helping folks like this prior to taking office. So there is that. This isn't about Trump, it's about a little baby boy and his parents deepest desires.


Pope, Trump offer support to parents of dying child Charlie Gard

By Hilary Clarke, CNN

Updated 2:19 PM ET, Mon July 3, 2017

London (CNN)The fate of Charlie Gard, a terminally ill infant, has come to the attention of two of the most powerful people on the planet: Pope Francis and US President Donald Trump.
Last week, the European Court of Human Rights ruled that a hospital can discontinue life support to the baby, who has a rare genetic disease. His doctors wish to take him off life support, but his parents disagree. Charlie's parents, Chris Gard and Connie Yates, wanted the hospital to release Charlie into their custody so they can take him to the United States for an experimental treatment.


"The Holy Father is following with affection and emotion the situation of little Charlie Gard and expresses his closeness to his parents. He is praying for them, in the hope that their desire to accompany and care for their own child until the end will be respected," the director of the Holy See Press Office, Greg Burke, said in a statement Sunday.

On Monday, Trump tweeted his support for Charlie's parents as doctors in London prepare to turn off his life support.

"If we can help little #CharlieGard, as per our friends in the U.K. and the Pope, we would be delighted to do so," Trump posted.

Helen Ferre, director of media affairs at the White House, said Monday, "Upon learning of baby Charlie Gard's situation, President Trump has offered to help the family in this heartbreaking situation. Although the President himself has not spoken to the family, he does not want to pressure them in any way, members of the administration have spoken to the family in calls facilitated by the British government. The President is just trying to be helpful if at all possible."

Born in August, Charlie has mitochondrial DNA depletion syndrome. Caused by a genetic mutation, the disease leads to weakened muscles and organ dysfunction, among other symptoms, with a poor prognosis for most patients.

Charlie has been in the intensive care unit at the Great Ormond Street Hospital for Children in London since October. His doctors now wish to take him off life support.

But Charlie's parents, refusing to accept the prognosis, want to take him to the United States for an experimental treatment.

Charlie's parents appealed to the UK Supreme Court to decide the best interests of their child. After they lost that appeal, the 10-month-old was due to have his life support switched off at the end of the day June 13.

Gard and Yates then filed a request with the European Court of Human Rights, an international court based in Strasbourg, France, to consider the case, but the judges there also ruled in favor of his doctors.


http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/03/health/ch ... index.html


Besides the fact that this is probably as tough as it gets for parents, according to Charlie's parents, they aren't even allowed to take him home to die. I'm not exactly sure why. This is such a gray area for us as a society. I do think the Pope has it right when he says they should be allowed to see their child through to the end with respect. I can't help but think of the story of Jahi McMath (who is still on life support in New Jersey) and how tangled up the whole situation can become.

I guess if I were Trump and could wave the US magic wand, I'd say yes, get them on a plane, get them over here and let them avail themselves of the offer of US doctors for experimental treatment. I do think I'd want that if it were my child.

Let them try what they need to try in order to live with themselves. Again, such a gray area I would wish on no one.

There's a video of the parents embedded in the CNN article. Don't watch it if your heart breaks easily.
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And? What did he do?

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:And? What did he do?

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We don't have the outcome yet. So far as I know the US is still communicating with the Brits/family.
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There's a bit more detail in this article.

http://time.com/4843746/president-trump ... rlie-gard/
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Jersey Girl wrote:
Besides the fact that this is probably as tough as it gets for parents, according to Charlie's parents, they aren't even allowed to take him home to die. I'm not exactly sure why.


If the Twitter feed is correct, the court took custody of Charlie Gard. That's why the parents can't take him home.
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It's a heartbreaking situation, but if it is certain that his severe brain damage is already irreversible, regardless of the success of the experimental procedure, I can understand why there is opposition to performing it. It is a bit harder for me to understand, though, why his parents are denied custody or access until he dies.
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Man, I hope this doesn't become Terry Schaivo redux.
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EAllusion wrote:Man, I hope this doesn't become Terry Schaivo redux.


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Gunnar wrote:It's a heartbreaking situation, but if it is certain that his severe brain damage is already irreversible, regardless of the success of the experimental procedure, I can understand why there is opposition to performing it. It is a bit harder for me to understand, though, why his parents are denied custody or access until he dies.


The court has taken custody of Charlie Gard.

It's all so horrible, heart breaking and confusing. Of course, as a parent you want to exhaust all efforts. It's probably not always wise, but in the end, they have to live with themselves, Gunnar.

If the US docs are willing to do the experimental procedure free of cost and Trump, Pope or some other benevolent benefactor willing to fly them over here, what would any of us want to do?

It's really the toughest call, isn't it?

I don't see how they can remove Charlie Gard from the hospital at this point. I guess with pressure from the Pope and Trump?

It's just horrible.
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I turned on the radio a couple days ago and heard Eric Erickson talking about Charlie Gard and he was criticizing Trump for tweeting about stupid crap instead of talking about poor Charlie.

And like clockwork, we can expect Trump to be influenced by whatever the Right Wing propaganda machine tells him to say and think. I don't believe for a second Trump cares about this kid or any other kid for that matter. They're just focusing on this one because he serves their anti-Liberal agenda. Erickson was basically blaming "The Left" the entire time in his rant on this subject.

Here it is, from five days ago:

https://Twitter.com/EWErickson/status/8 ... 8604952581

"The Charlie Gard situation is one of those times I wish the President would get on Twitter. He’d make everyone consider what is happening."

From what I understood of the situation is that the doctors there were in agreement that moving him would do the baby more harm than good. More harm that certain death? Well, I can only assume they're talking about the kind of pain he'd be in.
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