Enjoy!
My testimony is grounded in the Book of Mormon, not in "a cult led by a man". The Book of Mormon is the word of God. It is a book of scripture, revealed from heaven, no doubts about it.
Wrong! If that is what you want to believe, go ahead, I can’t stop you. But I can inform you that you are dead wrong!
I am in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, God’s only true Church on earth, restored in the last days for the gathering of his elect for the last time.
It is true, and the word of God, just as the Book of Mormon is. I am speaking of the English text. The same Spirit that bears witness to me that the Bible and the Book of Mormon are the words of God, also bears witness to me that the Book of Abraham is the word of God. The egyptological issues surrounding it do not concern me.
Dumb comment.
Another Dumb comment.
No I didn’t.
Oh no, not you again!
Nitpicking, still dumb comment. In informal conversation “the” can be omitted, if the context implies it. In the revelation in which the name of the Church was revealed we find the following:
D&C 115:
3 And also unto my faithful servants who are of the high council of my church in Zion, for thus it shall be called, and unto all the elders and people of my Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, scattered abroad in all the world;
4 For thus shall my church be called in the last days, even The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
As you can see, the definitive article in the first instance is omitted. It is not sacrosanct.
Rubbish, nonsense. The KJV quotes comprise about 7% of the Book of Mormon. And they are not identical; there are variations. If the Book of Mormon was a fraud, why would Joseph Smith want to expose himself to that kind of criticism by merely copying lengthy passage from the KJV—when he could have just omitted them, and nobody would have noticed anything?
I think that I am smarter than them. LOL! I quoted you what God had said, not what man has said.
I had figured.
Oh yes you have. You have fallen for the lies of the devil against Mormonism.
You are talking rubbish, nonsense. The Book of Mormon is the word of God, just as the Book of Abraham is the word of God.
Then you need to listen to the following devotional address given by Elder Tad R. Callister at BYU some months ago called: “The Book of Mormon: Man-Made or God-Given?”:
Since I and the rest of the Church, including General Authorities, believe that the D&C is the word of God—and you don’t—that issue will not arise.
See my previous post.
I am not in individual people's minds, that is true; but as a general observation, that is a true statement—otherwise they wouldn’t be Mormons.
You should know better than that. We determine the truth of revelation by the testimony of the Holy Ghost, not by some other means.
Already answered.
Religion is a matter of faith, not of "science". If you have invented a god for yourself called "scientific certainty," you are welcome to it; but it is a false god. It is nothing more than an idol. There is a real God, however, who can only be known by faith; and who can reveal "truths" that science cannot reveal.
If that is how you want to see it, you have that choice. There is nothing more that can be said. We part ways. But we will meet again someday, at a place called the "judgement bar," when you will know with "certainty" that is better than "scientific" that there was a real God whom you missed---with regrettable consequences.
Except that there are certain "facts" that cannot be known or discovered by "science," or for that matter by "Egyptology". They can only be known by faith, and by a revelation from God.
You and your "Egyptology" are not as omniscient as they thing they are. They may have discovered some truth, but not all truth. "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing," is a well-known proverb. They have discovered some knowledge, and they think the know everything. I don't think that they do.
No you don't. The "Egyptology" that you rely on so much is not as foolproof as you think it is. There is a better way of discovering truth that never goes wrong. "Egyptology" doesn't even come close.
I trust that what Joseph Smith taught was true. If your "Egyptology" says that it isn't, then I mistrust your "Egyptology" rather than Joseph Smith. I don't believe that your "Egyptology" has advanced enough to be able to solve every mystery therein.
You are talking nonsense. You know a little bit, and you think you know everything. "Science" proves nothing of the kind. There are many truths that cannot be known by "science," but by the revelations of God.You can knock your head against that wall forever; but it won't alter that fact.
Amounts to the same thing. I know without a doubt that Joseph Smith was a prophet, and translated the Book of Mormon by the gift and power of God, and that it is true. The same applies to the Book of Abraham, no difference.
You are wasting time. Nothing more to add. Have a nice day.
