"A person does not have to be religious to be moral...Both religious and secular people benefit from each other’s achievements...religious freedom creates the constitutional space for pursuing any kind of truth and protects, in the words of the UN Human Rights Committee, “theistic, non-theistic, and atheistic belief.”"
http://www.mormonnewsroom.org/article/with ... cular-meet
"atheism, the secular religion, is admitted to class, and our youngsters are proselyted to a conduct without morality." - Boyd K. Packer, General Conference
https://www.lds.org/general-conference/ ... y?lang=eng
"There seems to be developing a new civil religion. The civil religion I refer to is a secular religion. It has no moral absolutes. It is nondenominational. It is nontheistic...If this trend continues, nonbelief will be more honored than belief. While all beliefs must be protected, are atheism, agnosticism, cynicism, and moral relativism to be more safeguarded and valued than Christianity, Judaism, and the tenets of Islam, which hold that there is a Supreme Being and that mortals are accountable to him? If so, this would, in my opinion, place America in great moral jeopardy...Nonbelief is becoming more sponsored in the body politic than belief. History teaches well the lesson that there must be a unity in some moral absolutes in all societies for them to endure and progress" - James E. Faust
https://www.lds.org/ensign/1992/10/a-ne ... n?lang=eng
Newsroom vs Packer and Faust
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Re: Newsroom vs Packer and Faust
I can't see the point you think you're making, nor what you think there is to discuss.
It's just 3 quotes.
It's just 3 quotes.
“When we are confronted with evidence that challenges our deeply held beliefs we are more likely to reframe the evidence than we are to alter our beliefs. We simply invent new reasons, new justifications, new explanations. Sometimes we ignore the evidence altogether.” (Mathew Syed 'Black Box Thinking')
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Packer and Faust are basically saying that secular atheists have no morals. The Newsrooms contradicts them.
Good night! I am tired!
Good night! I am tired!
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Re: Newsroom vs Packer and Faust
DoubtingThomas wrote:Packer and Faust are basically saying that secular atheists have no morals. The Newsrooms contradicts them.
Good night! I am tired!
And how is the Newsroom's contradiction of a couple of dead Apostles noteworthy?
“When we are confronted with evidence that challenges our deeply held beliefs we are more likely to reframe the evidence than we are to alter our beliefs. We simply invent new reasons, new justifications, new explanations. Sometimes we ignore the evidence altogether.” (Mathew Syed 'Black Box Thinking')
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I have a question wrote:DoubtingThomas wrote:Packer and Faust are basically saying that secular atheists have no morals. The Newsrooms contradicts them.
Good night! I am tired!
And how is the Newsroom's contradiction of a couple of dead Apostles noteworthy?
To me, it's an interesting observation that most LDS probably already recognize, but that LDS leaders with an agenda against humanism would consider as "giving aid and comfort to the enemy." Packer and Faust may be dead, but their (dare I say?) clones are alive and well in the church, ever ready to wage righteous battle against the minions of Satan, otherwise known as evil secularists.
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I have a question wrote:
And how is the Newsroom's contradiction of a couple of dead Apostles noteworthy?
lol you mad?