Where is America Headed?

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Chap wrote:Any response to DrC from me?

Yes: it's smiling and nodding, while I try to make sure that he doesn't get between me and the exit from the bar. I fear that he has fallen into the habit of assuming that shouting a lot about one's strong feelings is some kind of unanswerable argument: that is true only in that a lot of people will not bother answering at all, because it seems an unpleasant waste of time.



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Harumph, good sir!

- Doc
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Any response to DrC from me?

Yes: it's smiling and nodding, while I try to make sure that he doesn't get between me and the exit from the bar. I fear that he has fallen into the habit of assuming that shouting a lot about one's strong feelings is some kind of unanswerable argument: that is true only in that a lot of people will not bother answering at all, because it seems an unpleasant waste of time.


Harumph, good sir!


Sad stuff.
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Chap wrote:
Harumph, good sir!


Sad stuff.


Coulda been worse. ;-)

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Look. If it were up to me I'd gut our military to about a 1/3 of its size, I'd tax the crap out of the wealthy, close all corporate loopholes, and fund universal healthcare for those wanting to opt in. I'd de-fund and cut some things while turbofunding others. And, yes, if cutting someone's food stamps by $60/month saves the federal government $33B per fiscal year I'd absolutely do it. You're also talking to a guy who'd freeze all cost of living pay raises, roll back wages on federal workers, and suspend foreign aid to various countries so I can employ drug addicts stateside building nature paths or whatever they can focus on for more than a day.

I figure I'd be less popular than Donald J. Trump and my life expectancy would be around the 100 day mark before some fat, entitled, federal worker scooty-puffed his way over to my motorcade and detonated a S-PBIED.

- Doc


So I guess you're not a part of that whole 'Politics is the Art of the Possible' school of thought?
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MeDotOrg wrote:So I guess you're not a part of that whole 'Politics is the Art of the Possible' school of thought?


Well, I am a pragmatist. I'm also a pessimist when it comes to real politik. What's inevitable is cycle after cycle of special interests getting the compromise you're talking about, absolutely ensuring we head towards where we find ourselves today. There is progress (whatever that means), but there exists regressive tendencies so strong within our system that change generally happens in spite of our governance rather than as a result of it. Representative democracy is a surefire way of pissing off virtually everyone at one point or another, and in many cases all the time. Just look at the various competing thoughts on this one thread alone. Not only is getting your way not going to happen, but even getting some of your way is generally impossible.

It is what it is.

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We're headed to no place good unless we change how much people get paid.

To my fellow plutocrats.
SEE http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/ ... ism-215347

Also China is set to surpass the US Militarily, and economically by 2030.
SEE https://www.commondreams.org/news/2017/ ... can-empire
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote: And, yes, if cutting someone's food stamps by $60/month saves the federal government $33B per fiscal year I'd absolutely do it.

Depriving those of their monthly food money seems inefficient. They might well survive several months. Why not go for a swift Final Solution to rid the world of those useless eaters, clinging to their walkers and wheelchairs? You and LDSfaqs could fight over the parking spot placards you might retrieve from the bodies during the disposal process.
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moksha wrote:
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote: And, yes, if cutting someone's food stamps by $60/month saves the federal government $33B per fiscal year I'd absolutely do it.

Depriving those of their monthly food money seems inefficient. They might well survive several months. Why not go for a swift Final Solution to rid the world of those useless eaters, clinging to their walkers and wheelchairs? You and LDSfaqs could fight over the parking spot placards you might retrieve from the bodies during the disposal process.


The vast majority of people on "food assistance" are obese. They need food assistance like LDSFAQs needs free WiFi. Also, I didn't say cut it out entirely. Those who are elderly, legitimately disabled (not fat-disabled like LDSFAQs), or under a BMI of 28 could qualify.

But, sure. Let's just go right to the Nazi comparative because “F” it. This is the Internet.

- Doc

eta: Seriously, though. If reducing "food assistance" by $60 is the difference between life and death you're going to want to check your passport. You're not in 'merica anymore.
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Cam where are you coming up with the 60$/mo figure for cutting food stamps?
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Jersey Girl wrote:Cam where are you coming up with the 60$/mo figure for cutting food stamps?


My ass. It was just an arbitrary number to underscore the overall point I was making. For some reason the scooty puffs on this thread are having a hard time with that one.

- Doc
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.

Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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