norway ! not united states ...

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norway ! not united states ...

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... especially not hungary

This week the British papers revealed in news about how much the BBC's on-air stars get paid, though the salaries of their counterparts in commercial TV remain under wraps. In Norway, there are no such secrets. Anyone can find out how much anyone else is paid - and it rarely causes problems.

In the past, your salary was published in a book. A list of everyone's income, assets and the tax they had paid, could be found on a shelf in the public library. These days, the information is online, just a few keystrokes away.

see http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-40669239 for more
Norway: The country where no salaries are secret
By Lars Bevanger BBC News, Oslo
22 July 2017

As far as I remember (by the way nothing to do with op, only the country mentioned...)
on another thread, MeDotOrg wrote:Specifically, which countries have penal systems that you admire which do not have the rates of recidivism of U.S. prisoners? Perhaps Norway?
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and knowing everyone's salary matters to who and why?
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I don't know about everyone, but those in governmental office, elected office, or the military, their salary should be known.
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The CCC wrote:I don't know about everyone, but those in governmental office, elected office, or the military, their salary should be known.

and there are a lot of people, not fitting to the categories you listed - they are called 'vip'

salary and tax (stress on the second...)

poor subby believes it is about 'joe the plumber' types
Choyo Chagas is Chairman of the Big Four, the ruler of the planet from "The Bull's Hour" ( Russian: Час Быка), a social science fiction novel written by Soviet author and paleontologist Ivan Yefremov in 1968.
Six months after its publication Soviet authorities banned the book and attempted to remove it from libraries and bookshops.
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So, Choyo Chagas, is the point of your post that Norway is doing a good thing, or that it's doing a bad thing?
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Choyo Chagas wrote:and there are a lot of people, not fitting to the categories you listed - they are called 'vip'

salary and tax (stress on the second...)

poor subby believes it is about 'joe the plumber' types

I wasn't being exclusive there. Just off the top of my head.
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subgenius wrote:and knowing everyone's salary matters to who and why?


Adam Conover makes the argument here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xH7eGFuSYI
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Analytics wrote:
subgenius wrote:and knowing everyone's salary matters to who and why?


Adam Conover makes the argument here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xH7eGFuSYI

That was an argument against being secretive about one's own salary, and it was a poor argument at that.
It didn't really offer a valid argument in support of OP and my question.
But thanks for the cheesy lowest common denominator television.
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subgenius wrote:
Analytics wrote:
Adam Conover makes the argument here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xH7eGFuSYI

That was an argument against being secretive about one's own salary, and it was a poor argument at that.
It didn't really offer a valid argument in support of OP and my question.
But thanks for the cheesy lowest common denominator television.


If you would have followed his logic, you'd see that it totally addresses your question. The basic argument is simple: markets work more efficiently when the participants in the market have more information. Do you really take issue with that concept?
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Dr. Shades wrote:So, Choyo Chagas, is the point of your post that Norway is doing a good thing, or that it's doing a bad thing?

it is a good thing

if you want, i can explicate it by counterexamples...
they are about romania and hungary - but are valid for every not-norway countries, including united states

are you really interested in?
Choyo Chagas is Chairman of the Big Four, the ruler of the planet from "The Bull's Hour" ( Russian: Час Быка), a social science fiction novel written by Soviet author and paleontologist Ivan Yefremov in 1968.
Six months after its publication Soviet authorities banned the book and attempted to remove it from libraries and bookshops.
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