Facts and Fiction

[_Maksutov]

Strange how this applies in both politics and religion.

[_The CCC]

Atheism doesn't have a good track record either.

[_Maksutov]

Atheism doesn't have a good track record either.

States based on atheism certainly committed genocide in the 20th century. I would venture that atheism had more victims than religion in that century. Even more tragic, much of the destruction was to their own people, due to ethnic cleansing, resource mismanagement and deliberate elimination, including murder, of communities.

[_The CCC]

Truly sad all the way around.

[_subgenius]

I can't agree with the OP.
Can't we attribute more atrocities to those who indeed insist that they have clearly distinguished between right/wrong or true/false? Ambiguous people are likely less motivated to perform anything in the name of whatever.
Apathy may not fight back but it also doesn't attack

[_Maksutov]

I can't agree with the OP.
Can't we attribute more atrocities to those who indeed insist that they have clearly distinguished between right/wrong or true/false? Ambiguous people are likely less motivated to perform anything in the name of whatever.
Apathy may not fight back but it also doesn't attack

That's another way to frame it that might work.

[_huckelberry]

I can't agree with the OP.
Can't we attribute more atrocities to those who indeed insist that they have clearly distinguished between right/wrong or true/false? Ambiguous people are likely less motivated to perform anything in the name of whatever.
Apathy may not fight back but it also doesn't attack

subgenius , I think you have a point here. Apathy makes poor soldiers and poor political supporters. Apathy may allow fanatics more opportunity to control by failing to resist.

There is another possibility. The opening quote may have in mind people who willingly believe fanatic authority because truth does not matter enough to them to question authority.

[_MeDotOrg]

I can't agree with the OP.
Can't we attribute more atrocities to those who indeed insist that they have clearly distinguished between right/wrong or true/false? Ambiguous people are likely less motivated to perform anything in the name of whatever.
Apathy may not fight back but it also doesn't attack

I think you're conflating right and wrong fallacies with true and false. People who have clearly distinguished right from wrong oftentimes do so with a complete disregard of objective reality. (Let's visit the Creation Museum!). Your're right: Thoughtful people can have ambiguous feeling about complex moral issues like abortion or the death penalty. But that's different from saying (for example) that the earth flooded for 40 days and 40 nights, and the animals that survived lived in an arc.