Economic Nationalism will unite Americans of all races...

[_Maxine Waters]

1. The illegal or work-permitted person serving as a short-order cook at your favorite Denny's,
2. The illegal or work-permitted person who busses tables and washes dishes at your corner diner,
3. The illegal or work-permitted person who works construction at the new home site down the road,
4. The illegal or work-permitted person that cleans rooms at the motel.

Who pays healthcare for their children? Since they don't earn enough on paper to feed their many children most qualify for food stamps, WIC, TANF, section 8, and social welfare programs ad infinitum. Especially with the construction example, every American worker they've undercut now qualifies for all these programs as well. Do you see how this is twice as expensive to those who are still employed and paying the taxes which now barely pays the interest on the national debt?

What happens when these illegal immigrants are granted amnesty? Will they continue working at these sub minimum paid under the table jobs? No, they're going to move onto the social welfare rolls and be replaced by other illegal immigrants. They can still collect welfare while they work as long as they're paid under the table anyway so long as they don't earn too much to get the attention of the IRS. This works out good for wealthy businessmen who need the cheap labor. It's partly why the minimum wage laws are such a joke since none of this is enforced uniformly at all.

[_Maxine Waters]

What Trump fails to see is that the more Trump says 'America First', the more the rest of the world hears 'America Alone'.

He wasn't running to be elected President of the World.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Majax,

Give us a snapshot of your economic policies you'd like to see enacted that would reduce our national debt, increase wages without increasing real costs, and increase American internal production to reduce imports.

- Doc

[_EAllusion]

I don't think "economic nationalism" has a coherent meaning as Bannon uses it, and it definitely does not as Ajax uses it. Moreover, the two people's views don't exactly align. Bannon's support of large tax increases to finance national greatness economic projects is what Ajax calls socialism and was something he vociferously opposed in milder form under Obama.

[_moksha]

Former White House Chief Strategist Steve Bannon emphasized in a 60 Minutes interview that President Donald Trump’s message of economic nationalism...

Chancellor Trump and Reich Minister of Economics Steve Bannon stand triumphantly on the viewing platform while squadron after squadron of Whiteshirts march by, following their successful Night of the iPads.

The path is clear: First, cut all trading alliances, then build a huge wall, gut education, eliminate health care, deny climate change, and finally slash taxes for the rich and let the savings trickle down to the masses. Can't go wrong with that coherent plan of economic nationalism. A thousand year Trumparody.

[_canpakes]

1. The illegal or work-permitted person serving as a short-order cook at your favorite Denny's,
2. The illegal or work-permitted person who busses tables and washes dishes at your corner diner,
3. The illegal or work-permitted person who works construction at the new home site down the road,
4. The illegal or work-permitted person that cleans rooms at the motel.

Who pays healthcare for their children? Since they don't earn enough on paper to feed their many children most qualify for food stamps, WIC, TANF, section 8, and social welfare programs ad infinitum.

This isn't an 'economic nationalism' problem. This is a welfare roll problem. Otherwise, it would seem that the cash disbursed through welfare is pretty much plowing right back into the economy via rent, hospital bills and grocery purchases.

Especially with the construction example, every American worker they've undercut now qualifies for all these programs as well. Do you see how this is twice as expensive to those who are still employed and paying the taxes which now barely pays the interest on the national debt?

This isn't an 'economic nationalism' problem. This is a benefits qualification problem, and it exists for legal residents. This is also a problem inherent to capitalism and 'job creators' in that most any employer will pay as little as they can for their labor. It isn't as if a bunch of illegals gather up and march on into a construction company and negotiate to be paid at lower than the prevailing wage, right?

What happens when these illegal immigrants are granted amnesty? Will they continue working at these sub minimum paid under the table jobs? No, they're going to move onto the social welfare rolls and be replaced by other illegal immigrants. They can still collect welfare while they work as long as they're paid under the table anyway so long as they don't earn too much to get the attention of the IRS.

At this point, regardless of their situation they'd be citizens, correct? Again, there goes your 'economic nationalism' argument.

This works out good for wealthy businessmen who n̶e̶e̶d̶ want the cheap labor. It's partly why the minimum wage laws are such a joke since none of this is enforced uniformly at all.

Oh, look. I think that you've actually identified the problem.

This still has nothing to do with 'economic nationalism', but at least you finally got around to pointing out the real issue. ; )

[_Analytics]

I'd suggest that every important question of economics falls into one of the following two broad categories: the production of useful goods and services, and how those goods and services are distributed. The question is, if we take an "America First" (whatever that means) philosophy, how is it going to help? Is it going to cause an increased production of goods and services? Or is it going to cause goods and services to be distributed better (whatever that means)?

Majax seams to be conceding that "illegals" pull their weight when it comes to actually producing useful goods and services, but thinks it is a suboptimal distribution because the man unfairly take advantage of their hard work to unfairly enrich themselves. And despite how they work their asses off, it is still a drag--even though they work their asses off now, once they become legal they (and their descendentes) will instantly change from being industrious makers out of necesity to lazy leachy takers out of nature.

[_The CCC]

Remember that all five GOP LDS Senators voted to confirm Judge Gorsuch to the Supreme Court.

I never claimed that LDS Senators can't be flat out wrong.

[_Maxine Waters]

Majax,

Give us a snapshot of your economic policies you'd like to see enacted that would reduce our national debt, increase wages without increasing real costs, and increase American internal production to reduce imports.

- Doc

Bannon has already done this. I'm not saying it solves every world problem. I'm saying it's in the best interest of the most American citizens. I also think if Trump doubles down on economic nationalism, he will win again in 2020.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Majax,

Give us a snapshot of your economic policies you'd like to see enacted that would reduce our national debt, increase wages without increasing real costs, and increase American internal production to reduce imports.

- Doc

Bannon has already done this. I'm not saying it solves every world problem. I'm saying it's in the best interest of the most American citizens. I also think if Trump doubles down on economic nationalism, he will win again in 2020.

Ok. You can't. You never do, really. Now that I think about it you've never really demonstrated a strong capacity for original thought or abstract thinking. You're going to have to do better if you want your ideas to gain traction.

- Doc