Is Nothing Sacred?

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_Craig Paxton
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Is Nothing Sacred?

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“No success in public life can compensate for failure in the home.”
– Benjamin Disraeli, 1st Earl of Beaconsfield and a British Prime Minister, 1804 – 1881

“No other success in life can compensate for failure in the home”
– David O. McKay, President of the LDS Church, 1873 –1970

I met McKay as a very young man...I always looked up to him...now I see that even he was capable of sculdugery...as an educator he knew better and should have given credit where credit was due...feeling disappointed that another of my boyhood heros was not perfect.
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The church is counterfeit. Anything good or right that comes from the church was borrowed or stolen from somewhere else. Anything the is authentic to the church, such as polygamy, blood atonement, or the idea that a christian church can build a 2 billion dollar upscale shopping mall and still claim they are following the ideals laid out by a first century carpenter is truly messed up.
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Craig Paxton wrote:“No success in public life can compensate for failure in the home.”
– Benjamin Disraeli, 1st Earl of Beaconsfield and a British Prime Minister, 1804 – 1881

“No other success in life can compensate for failure in the home”
– David O. McKay, President of the LDS Church, 1873 –1970

Nothing wrong with paraphrasing a great quote. Life does not follow the rules of an academic dissertation. Most likely Disraeli borrowed this idea from Edmund Blackadder.
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moksha wrote:
Craig Paxton wrote:“No success in public life can compensate for failure in the home.”
– Benjamin Disraeli, 1st Earl of Beaconsfield and a British Prime Minister, 1804 – 1881

“No other success in life can compensate for failure in the home”
– David O. McKay, President of the LDS Church, 1873 –1970

Nothing wrong with paraphrasing a great quote. Life does not follow the rules of an academic dissertation. Most likely Disraeli borrowed this idea from Edmund Blackadder.


Only difference is that Disraeli was a real person and Edmond Blackadder was a fictional character..so you don't feel the church should be giving accreditation to the actual man who coined the phrase instead of McKay?
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When in fact it should go to Disraeli?

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In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.

Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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https://www.lds.org/churchhistory/presidents/controllers/potcController.jsp?leader=9&topic=quotes

“No other success can compensate for failure in the home.”
(Quoted from J. E. McCullough, Home: The Savior of Civilization [1924], 42; Conference Report, Apr. 1935, 116.)
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Shulem wrote:url]https://www.LDS.org/churchhistory/presidents/controllers/potcController.jsp?leader=9&topic=quotes[/url]

“No other success can compensate for failure in the home.”
(Quoted from J. E. McCullough, Home: The Savior of Civilization [1924], 42; Conference Report, Apr. 1935, 116.)

So this J. E. McCullough coped it from Disraeli? I'm glad to see that the church does give accreditation even if it isn't to the originator of this quote.
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The church is full of plagiarization not restoration.
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Craig Paxton wrote:“No success in public life can compensate for failure in the home.”
– Benjamin Disraeli, 1st Earl of Beaconsfield and a British Prime Minister, 1804 – 18t81

“No other success in life can compensate for failure in the home”
– David O. McKay, President of the LDS Church, 1873 –1970


I met McKay as a very young man...I always looked up to him...now I see that even he was capable of sculdugery...as an educator he knew better and should have given credit where credit was due...feeling disappointed that another of my boyhood heros was not perfect.
Oh ...shoot..another little tadoo to add to my list of disappointments. Pres. McKay was my first Prophet in life..and I reveled in his teachings at a very young age..his picture everywhere and studied him often. Gosh..if I could just find one thing truthful in my religious past...just one..I might not feel the fool.
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