Jesse Pinkman wrote:WaterDog, you are also overlooking the fact that Joseph Smith originally organized the Relief Society as a priesthood for the women. When the Saints moved to Utah, one of Brigham Young’s wives had to beg him to re-establish the Relief Society after the relocation took place. When he did, because he is a mysoginistic asshole, the Relief Society became an auxiliary organization rather than a priesthood for women that held equal footing.
Women in today’s Church have never had the opportunity to be ordained. Just because they don’t publicly seek it out doesn’t mean that it isn’t something they might desire.
The church Joseph founded in the early 19th century is not the same as the Brighimite branch of the church and what it has evolved into in the 21st century. Seems an incredibly tacit thing that need not be pointed out. Jana Reiss did a very extensive study of women in the church and their feelings on ordination, and something on the order of 90% say they don't want it. Moreover, it is the women who are the most strongly opposed. The men are basically just going along with whatever the women want. Anecdotally, I've had this discussion with I'm not sure how many women, many dozens. They DO NOT want ordination.
Go do your own survey. I challenge you. Walk into random LDS wards, and poll the sisters in RS. Strongly opposed.
The only women I've come across who are interested in ordination are the obscure, angry, political feminist types. The man hating types with some kind of axe to grind. Millennial women who have been persuaded by voices outside the church that they should be upset over the whole ordination thing, that it's an insult to them. Look at Kate Kelly, lol. She's an angry B word. Terribly insecure. These are women who are not very "in" the church culture to begin with. Generally speaking, they just have issues. Women who are well saturated into the culture though, whether they happen to identify with liberal or conservative political issues, see the ordination issue in an entirely different light and strongly oppose it. Because they have the maturity to recognize it's a superficial thing. Just like you guys whining about the young women handing out towels in reaction to that recent temple change. This just isn't how the social dynamics work out. If the women were ordained, the men wouldn't have a reason to be there. It's that simple.
https://religionnews.com/2015/12/15/mor ... -findings/http://mormongendersurvey.org/results/More nonsense that feels so true in your gut that you decided to pull it out of your ass and share it with us?
All my peepstone will say is NSFW.