Church statement on immigration...Oh the irony...

[_I have a question]

"The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has long expressed its position that immigration reform should strengthen families and keep them together," the Church said. "The forced separation of children from their parents now occurring at the U.S.-Mexico border is harmful to families, especially to young children. We are deeply troubled by the aggressive and insensitive treatment of these families."

https://www.ldschurchnews.com/latest/20 ... tion-47390

^Brought to you by the Church that requires people to disavow their Gay parents as a condition of baptism, and who will excommunicate family members and advocates shunning them if they are apostate.

Yes, the cost of joining The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints can be very high, but the admonition to prefer Christ above all others, even our closest family members, applies also to those who may have been born in the covenant. Many of us became members of the Church without opposition, perhaps as children. The challenge we may confront is remaining loyal to the Savior and His Church in the face of parents, in-laws, brothers or sisters, or even our children whose conduct, beliefs, or choices make it impossible to support both Him and them.

It is not a question of love. We can and must love one another as Jesus loves us. As He said, “By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another” (John 13:35). So although familial love continues, relationships may be interrupted and, according to the circumstances, even support or tolerance at times may be suspended for the sake of our higher love (see Matthew 10:37).

https://www.lds.org/ensign/2016/03/find ... g=eng&_r=1

Children of same-sex couples will not be able to join the Mormon Church until they turn 18 — and only if they move out of their parents’ homes, disavow all same-sex relationships and receive approval from the church’s top leadership as part of a new policy adopted by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/07/us/m ... riage.html

“...strengthen families and keep them together...”

When the Church starts to practice what its leaders preach, maybe people will take their words a little more seriously.

[_Meadowchik]

Just as horrendous was the Indian Placement Program, or Lamanite Placement Program. There are some exmoer's on reddit describing their personal experiences with siblings "adopted" through that program.

[_Dr. Shades]

There are some exmoer's on reddit describing their personal experiences with siblings "adopted" through that program.

What are some of the highlights?

[_Polygamy-Porter]

No longer a story.

The media took this and RAN with it.

So if a parent is caught on a DUI with a child in the car, do we send the child with the parent to the drunk tank?

Or a mother is caught shoplifting at Walmart. Are the police obligated to keep her child with her while the mother is driven to jail?

Or a prostitue is busted in a motel room on a sting and happens to have her two kids hiding in the bathroom.

Or a father is pulled over with expired tags and the cops find a warrant for his arrest due to unpaid speeding tickets...

This list goes on and on..

So these foreign criminals are caught while committing a crime, and they foolishly happen to have their child(ren) present.. why is there a difference in how things are handled??

[_RockSlider]

No longer a story.

The media took this and RAN with it.

So if a parent is caught on a DUI with a child in the car, do we send the child with the parent to the drunk tank?

Or a mother is caught shoplifting at Walmart. Are the police obligated to keep her child with her while the mother is driven to jail?

Or a prostitue is busted in a motel room on a sting and happens to have her two kids hiding in the bathroom.

Or a father is pulled over with expired tags and the cops find a warrant for his arrest due to unpaid speeding tickets...

This list goes on and on..

So these foreign criminals are caught while committing a crime, and they foolishly happen to have their child(ren) present.. why is there a difference in how things are handled??

good question

[_SuperDell]

So LDS Leadership is in favor of children being locked up in cells, jails and prisons when their parents are there?

What about laws that prohibit minors from being housed with adult prisoners?

Those presenting at Border checkpoints asking for asylum are kept in holding areas with their family members present. They are not criminals and are held until disposition of their petition is decided.

Those crossing the border illegally are held for possible criminal prosecution and as such minor children are separated and put in a child care facility. Minors and adult prisoners are not held in the same cells or facilities. US as well as immigrants are treated the same.

Those coming across the border illegally but are from countries other than Mexico are treated differently depending on their country of origin. Treaties, agreements and such are different for various countries. They are separated from minor children just as other illegals are.

Mormon, Inc wants to ignore the laws?

[_I have a question]

Once again, when the Church speaks very little thinking has been done.

[_Meadowchik]

No longer a story.

The media took this and RAN with it.

So if a parent is caught on a DUI with a child in the car, do we send the child with the parent to the drunk tank?

Or a mother is caught shoplifting at Walmart. Are the police obligated to keep her child with her while the mother is driven to jail?

Or a prostitue is busted in a motel room on a sting and happens to have her two kids hiding in the bathroom.

Or a father is pulled over with expired tags and the cops find a warrant for his arrest due to unpaid speeding tickets...

This list goes on and on..

So these foreign criminals are caught while committing a crime, and they foolishly happen to have their child(ren) present.. why is there a difference in how things are handled??

I got a speeding ticket with my kids in the car, a misdemeanor. I was given a ticket and I drove away, family intact.

This specific separation policy enacted in 2018 affects both the misdemeanor illegal border crossings, but also those requesting asylum at ports of entry, which is not a crime at all.

[_Meadowchik]

There are some exmoer's on reddit describing their personal experiences with siblings "adopted" through that program.

What are some of the highlights?

One had an an "adopted" sister who went back to her family on the reservation as soon as she was 18.

On another note, one of my good friends is Samoan and was raised being taught she was part of the elect Lamanite generation. Her culture and history was essentially hyjacked by the church's narrative. Isn't that a neat trick? The church can literally separate children from their parents but also entire peoples from their heritage.

[_SuperDell]

No longer a story.

The media took this and RAN with it.

So if a parent is caught on a DUI with a child in the car, do we send the child with the parent to the drunk tank?

Or a mother is caught shoplifting at Walmart. Are the police obligated to keep her child with her while the mother is driven to jail?

Or a prostitue is busted in a motel room on a sting and happens to have her two kids hiding in the bathroom.

Or a father is pulled over with expired tags and the cops find a warrant for his arrest due to unpaid speeding tickets...

This list goes on and on..

So these foreign criminals are caught while committing a crime, and they foolishly happen to have their child(ren) present.. why is there a difference in how things are handled??

I got a speeding ticket with my kids in the car, a misdemeanor. I was given a ticket and I drove away, family intact.

This specific separation policy enacted in 2018 affects both the misdemeanor illegal border crossings, but also those requesting asylum at ports of entry, which is not a crime at all.

Listen to our U.S. Senator who spoke specifically about this. Those seeking asylum at ports of entry are not illegals and are held together with family members in housing/centers for that purpose. Separation is for those suspected of criminal activity. U.S. Law prohibits holding minors in the same cells as Adults.