Why Is Trump So Eager to Do Putin's Bidding?

[Guest]

Trump threw a temper tantrum at the recent G7 meeting with our allies Trump excoriated NATO because our allies would not agree to just handing Crimea over to Russia.

Now, I'm not trying to defend NATO in any way. I understand they do a lot of crappy things all over the world and they're currently involved in them. However, the United States does depend on them. Donald Trump is attempting to blow up that alliance. Why? Well, it actually has nothing to do with the money that we're paying because later on he actually revealed the real reason. He believes that we need to just hand over Crimea to Russia. He's really mad that our NATO allies over in Europe haven't just done that. Why not give it to Vladimir Putin in Russia?

Now, this was part of the meeting. This is what the man said. As most people who've been paying attention to the situation understand, Russia has been weaken and undermine NATO for quite some time now. Basically, Donald Trump showed up at this G7 meeting, threw this temper tantrum in an attempt to do Russia's bidding here. Now, this is not Russiagate hysteria. This is not new Cold War talking points. This is literally what happened at the meeting that is easily verifiable. There is no way to juggle around these facts. This actually happened. Donald Trump is out there advocating for these countries to hand over Crimea to Russia. If they don't, he is going to go to a NATO meeting in just a few weeks and basically make the whole thing about money so that they can't get anything else accomplished.

Donald Trump absolutely on at least this issue, most likely more, is doing Russia's bidding for no reason, at least on the surface. We have to assume as rational, thinking human beings that there is a reason why Donald Trump is out there trying to advocate for Russia to our allies and alienating the people closest to us. Hopefully, somebody like Robert Mueller is gonna be able to figure out what that underlying reason is.

Do any of the conservatives on this forum really approve of Trump supporting Putin's territorial ambitions? Why is Trump so eager to kow tow to and praise dictators like Putin and Kim Jong Un and alienate our (up to now) closest and most loyal allies and friends?

[_Jersey Girl]

Do any of the conservatives on this forum really approve of Trump supporting Putin's territorial ambitions?

Nope.

Why is Trump so eager to kow tow to and praise dictators like Putin and Kim Jong Un and alienate our (up to now) closest and most loyal allies and friends?

Not knowing a whole lot about things political, but knowing something about human behavior, if I had to throw a dart and aim at something here, I would say that he's schmoozing both Putin and Un in an attempt to create a rapport/relationship with them.

The trouble is, is that none of the 3 can be remotely trusted. So there's that.

[_EAllusion]

Because Putin interfered in our free elections on his behalf in 2016 and plans on doing so in 2018 and 2020 as well? Is this a rhetorical question?

[_Themis]

Not knowing a whole lot about things political, but knowing something about human behavior, if I had to throw a dart and aim at something here, I would say that he's schmoozing both Putin and Un in an attempt to create a rapport/relationship with them.

I don't think so. Trump is going out of his way to create worse relationships with America's closest allies and has started an all out trade war. His behavior with Putin has been very different then how he engages almost all other world leaders. There is far too many data points saying he has been compromised by the Russians. in my opinion this has been the greatest victory since WW2 for the Soviets/Russians.

[_ajax18]

The biggest threat to America is global warming Gunnar. The cold war called and asked for its foreign policy back.

[_Themis]

The biggest threat to America is global warming Gunnar. The cold war called and asked for its foreign policy back.

It's sad many like you are so dishonest. It was a great political line during an election that helped Obama. You were the guys who criticized Obama about it when Russia invaded Crimea. Was Obama was wrong? Yes he was, but now you take the position he was right by trying to use the same line Obama did to defend Trump. Very hypocritical, but not unexpected.

[_Some Schmo]

It's obvious. Putin has the pee tape.

[Guest]

The cold war called and asked for its foreign policy back.

That's very glib, but falls apart upon examination. Today's Russia has replaced a brutal communist regime with a brutal plutocratic one, run by arguably the biggest kleptocrat in the history of the world.. There is brutal suppression of the press. Journalists are routinely murdered. Expats are poisoned on foreign soil. They have unquestionably tampered in our elections.

Vladimir Putin was a KGB officer for 25 years. His training gave him a great understanding of the mechanisms necessary in suppressing truth at home and exporting lies abroad. His rise to power has meant that the workers no longer own the means of production, but the brutal suppression is pretty much the same. He is Slobodan Milosevic times 12.

True, there is no Warsaw Pact, but I don't tell that to the citizens of Crimea. Crimea was invaded because Putin's stooge, Viktor Yanukovych, had been ousted in the Euromaidan Revolution. He did not trust Yanukovych's successor to play nice, and Russia wants a great warm water Black Sea port.

And if the name Viktor Yanukovych is familiar, it might be because Paul Manafort did his bidding as an unregistered foreign agent of the Yanukovych regime. Now remember during the Republican convention that the Trump camp lobbied for a softer plank on the invasion of the Crimea? While Paul Manafort was chairman of the campaign?

And now, at the G7 Trump says let bygones be bygones, forget the invasion of Crimea and the tampering of elections throughout the West. Let's let Russia back into the G7. He takes this stance in opposition to all other nations of the G7. And now Trump will have a summer summit with Putin.

I don't know how that does not ring at least one alarm bell for you.

[_Themis]

I don't know how that does not ring at least one alarm bell for you.

It wont. Ajax has eyes only for racist immigration polices. He would give up anything for it.

[_Gunnar]

Not knowing a whole lot about things political, but knowing something about human behavior, if I had to throw a dart and aim at something here, I would say that he's schmoozing both Putin and Un in an attempt to create a rapport/relationship with them.

The trouble is, is that none of the 3 can be remotely trusted. So there's that.

That is all abundantly obvious--especially what I highlighted in red!