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Book of Abraham apologetics, part three
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Re: Book of Abraham apologetics, part three
Just read this by H. Donl Peterson... This will take you back, Shulem
http://emp.byui.edu/SATTERFIELDB/Rel327 ... braham.pdf
http://emp.byui.edu/SATTERFIELDB/Rel327 ... braham.pdf
Riding on a speeding train; trapped inside a revolving door;
Lost in the riddle of a quatrain; Stuck in an elevator between floors.
One focal point in a random world can change your direction:
One step where events converge may alter your perception.
Lost in the riddle of a quatrain; Stuck in an elevator between floors.
One focal point in a random world can change your direction:
One step where events converge may alter your perception.
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Re: Book of Abraham apologetics, part three
grindael wrote:Just read this by H. Donl Peterson... This will take you back, Shulem![]()
http://emp.byui.edu/SATTERFIELDB/Rel327 ... braham.pdf
Indeed, indeed. And:

THE BOOK OF ABRAHAM FACSIMILE NO. 3
Includes a startling new discovery!
Here Comes The Book of Abraham Part I, II, III
IN THE FORM OF A DOVE
Includes a startling new discovery!
Here Comes The Book of Abraham Part I, II, III
IN THE FORM OF A DOVE
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Re: Book of Abraham apologetics, part three
Then there are so many questions that go unanswered, even today.

Saga of the Book of Abraham; Jay M. Todd, 1969
Questions beget questions
“The issue is a confusing one at present.” P. 253
“These are major questions. Perhaps their answers will not be known until that great day when all things are truly known.” P. 289
“In time perhaps we shall know. But this much we do know — we do not know the answer now.” P.290
“Perhaps this view is correct. Perhaps it is not. Only time will tell. P.314
“One wonders, therefore, if the Prophet did indeed think he knew the identity of one of the mummies he had acquired.” P.316
“Obviously, these are questions and relationships that are beyond solution at the present time.” P. 317
“So much for what is public information of the ‘Valuable Discovery.’ Again, its ultimate meaning and value are not known.” P. 318
“Once more, only time will tell.” P. 319
“Only time will reveal the soundness of its conclusions.” P. 380

Saga of the Book of Abraham; Jay M. Todd, 1969
Questions beget questions
“The issue is a confusing one at present.” P. 253
“These are major questions. Perhaps their answers will not be known until that great day when all things are truly known.” P. 289
“In time perhaps we shall know. But this much we do know — we do not know the answer now.” P.290
“Perhaps this view is correct. Perhaps it is not. Only time will tell. P.314
“One wonders, therefore, if the Prophet did indeed think he knew the identity of one of the mummies he had acquired.” P.316
“Obviously, these are questions and relationships that are beyond solution at the present time.” P. 317
“So much for what is public information of the ‘Valuable Discovery.’ Again, its ultimate meaning and value are not known.” P. 318
“Once more, only time will tell.” P. 319
“Only time will reveal the soundness of its conclusions.” P. 380
THE BOOK OF ABRAHAM FACSIMILE NO. 3
Includes a startling new discovery!
Here Comes The Book of Abraham Part I, II, III
IN THE FORM OF A DOVE
Includes a startling new discovery!
Here Comes The Book of Abraham Part I, II, III
IN THE FORM OF A DOVE
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Re: Book of Abraham apologetics, part three
Here comes Radio Free Mormon with Book of Abraham part III.


THE BOOK OF ABRAHAM FACSIMILE NO. 3
Includes a startling new discovery!
Here Comes The Book of Abraham Part I, II, III
IN THE FORM OF A DOVE
Includes a startling new discovery!
Here Comes The Book of Abraham Part I, II, III
IN THE FORM OF A DOVE
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Re: Book of Abraham apologetics, part three
It's up ..... Let's gather the family around the radio .....

https://mormondiscussionpodcast.org/2019/02/radio-free-mormon-055-the-book-of-abraham-missing-scrolls-catalyst-theories-and-bad-apologetics-part-3/

https://mormondiscussionpodcast.org/2019/02/radio-free-mormon-055-the-book-of-abraham-missing-scrolls-catalyst-theories-and-bad-apologetics-part-3/
"Religion is about providing human community in the guise of solving problems that don’t exist or failing to solve problems that do and seeking to reconcile these contradictions and conceal the failures in bogus explanations otherwise known as theology." - Kishkumen
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Re: Book of Abraham apologetics, part three
I really hope Kerry Muhlestein hears about this podcast!!!
You prove yourself of the devil and anti-mormon every word you utter, because only the devil perverts facts to make their case.--ldsfaqs (6-24-13)
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Re: Book of Abraham apologetics, part three
consiglieri wrote:I really hope Kerry Muhlestein hears about this podcast!!!
Muhlestein is a traitor to Egyptology and has disgraced the sacred memory of ancient Egypt. Kerry will go down in history as a traitor and a rat -- a defrocked Egyptologist clown, a mere footnote, and a butt of jokes in conventional Egyptology.
I think it's reasonable to assume that he'll hear about your podcast, consiglieri.

A peeping traitor
THE BOOK OF ABRAHAM FACSIMILE NO. 3
Includes a startling new discovery!
Here Comes The Book of Abraham Part I, II, III
IN THE FORM OF A DOVE
Includes a startling new discovery!
Here Comes The Book of Abraham Part I, II, III
IN THE FORM OF A DOVE
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Re: Book of Abraham apologetics, part three
Brian Hauglid's corrections and criticism of your previous podcast errors are legitimate and useful. Especially useful was the correction that Joseph Smith set his own pen to the Kirtland Papers so the scribes can't be blamed as 100% responsible. Other than that, the rest is pretty much of no consequence but correct, nonetheless.
I view Hauglid as not wanting to play the deception game but wants to frame everything in proper context. However, he's in the hot seat because doing so could prove a danger to his relationship with the church. He's stuck between a rock and a hard place. He's going to remain tight lipped until his shelf actually breaks.
I view Hauglid as not wanting to play the deception game but wants to frame everything in proper context. However, he's in the hot seat because doing so could prove a danger to his relationship with the church. He's stuck between a rock and a hard place. He's going to remain tight lipped until his shelf actually breaks.
THE BOOK OF ABRAHAM FACSIMILE NO. 3
Includes a startling new discovery!
Here Comes The Book of Abraham Part I, II, III
IN THE FORM OF A DOVE
Includes a startling new discovery!
Here Comes The Book of Abraham Part I, II, III
IN THE FORM OF A DOVE
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Re: Book of Abraham apologetics, part three
Mormon apologists sing their song.


THE BOOK OF ABRAHAM FACSIMILE NO. 3
Includes a startling new discovery!
Here Comes The Book of Abraham Part I, II, III
IN THE FORM OF A DOVE
Includes a startling new discovery!
Here Comes The Book of Abraham Part I, II, III
IN THE FORM OF A DOVE
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Re: Book of Abraham apologetics, part three
Glad to hear that Robert Ritner makes the concession that Joseph Smith got a lucky guess with the four corners of the earth in Facsimile No. 2. See my old apologetic link on this:
The Four Sons of Horus
But let's be clear that this is just a part of what the canoptic jars represent. More important is the funerary representation of the canoptic jars and that is what Joseph Smith missed because he was clueless. The rest of the interpretations of Facsimile No. 2 tendered by Joseph Smith are utter BS. But he did get the four corners or the for directions and considering the fact that this is a theme to ancient thinking and that there are FOUR characters in the register, it's simply a lucky guess on Smith's part as he blindly pins the tail on a donkey -- so to speak.
The Four Sons of Horus
But let's be clear that this is just a part of what the canoptic jars represent. More important is the funerary representation of the canoptic jars and that is what Joseph Smith missed because he was clueless. The rest of the interpretations of Facsimile No. 2 tendered by Joseph Smith are utter BS. But he did get the four corners or the for directions and considering the fact that this is a theme to ancient thinking and that there are FOUR characters in the register, it's simply a lucky guess on Smith's part as he blindly pins the tail on a donkey -- so to speak.
THE BOOK OF ABRAHAM FACSIMILE NO. 3
Includes a startling new discovery!
Here Comes The Book of Abraham Part I, II, III
IN THE FORM OF A DOVE
Includes a startling new discovery!
Here Comes The Book of Abraham Part I, II, III
IN THE FORM OF A DOVE