https://www.religiousstudiesproject.com ... nd-agency/
"A candid discussion with Nancy Ross about Mormon women’s experiences with wearing LDS garments. From the paper “LDS Garments and Agency: A Qualitative Study of Meaning” by Nancy Ross and Jessica Finnigan: “The form of LDS garments has changed over time, from wrist-to-ankle, single-piece long underwear, to versions that included short sleeves and legs, to the two-piece styles that are common today. One of the most difficult aspects of studying garments is that talking about them is a transgressive act.” This is that boundary pushing discussion."
LDS garments and agency
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LDS garments and agency
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From the transcript...
For a Church that wants it’s female members to have plenty of children, garments are counter productive in at least 50% of Mormon relationships.
...about half of women experience their garments as interfering with their sexual relationship with their spouses. About half of women feel as though – it’s really divided half and half. Half of the women that we surveyed feel that it does impact their sexual relationships and half feel that it doesn’t. And so that’s a pretty tidy divide. Many men reported that . . . not that they felt that their own garments were unattractive, necessarily, but they reported that their wives wearing garments put them off sex. They were unattractive. And that created a problem in their intimate relationships.
For a Church that wants it’s female members to have plenty of children, garments are counter productive in at least 50% of Mormon relationships.
“When we are confronted with evidence that challenges our deeply held beliefs we are more likely to reframe the evidence than we are to alter our beliefs. We simply invent new reasons, new justifications, new explanations. Sometimes we ignore the evidence altogether.” (Mathew Syed 'Black Box Thinking')
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But we got a lot of women saying that garments impact the relationship they have with their bodies. So, for some of these, that was in terms of feeling sexy and attractive. For some women that was like a literal deadening of the senses. So some women felt that garments deadened their senses and prevented them from being able to feel. Some women felt that the ugliness or unattractiveness they felt from their garments had impacted their life in other ways. Some connected eating disorders with wearing garments.
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...hundreds of women reported medical conditions that were caused or exacerbated by wearing garments.
“When we are confronted with evidence that challenges our deeply held beliefs we are more likely to reframe the evidence than we are to alter our beliefs. We simply invent new reasons, new justifications, new explanations. Sometimes we ignore the evidence altogether.” (Mathew Syed 'Black Box Thinking')
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_Meadowchik
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Re: LDS garments and agency
My first full day without garments as a non-believer was an anxious day. It was strange feeling the strength of that superstition. But it eventually evaporated. I was still me without them. Didn't get struck down, didn't wanna go break the law or hurt people. I still wanted to be good, still teared up over beautiful,sad, or happy things, still loved people.
And I never would have known how much of those experiences were all really me had I not removed the garments.
And I never would have known how much of those experiences were all really me had I not removed the garments.
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Wonder when jebus jammies will become obsolete like much of the Old(er, errr, errrrrr, etc.) Mormon temple ceremonies and replace with new requirements like Sharpie markers. https://youtu.be/7VOb0XNjdXE
Revelation 2:17 . . give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it. Thank Google GOD for her son eBay, you can now have life eternal with laser engraving. . oh, and a seer stone and save 10% of your life's earning as a bonus. See you in Mormon man god Heaven Bitches!!. Bring on the Virgins