Trump says no legislation if investigation continues

[_MeDotOrg]

Trump has initiated his own government shutdown of sorts. After learning that Nancy Pelosi had accused the President of obstruction, Trump stormed out of his scheduled meeting with Democrats after 3 minutes, and spoke at a podium that had already been conveniently set up. No infrastructure talk while there is talk of impeachment.

Understand where the American people are in Trump's mind. He is taking them hostage in his war with Congress. Their bridges may crumble, but the President refused to work with Congress because they are investigating him. I don't know if he would throw his mother under a bus, but he is allowing the American people to sit under crumbling bridges, because of his pride, vanity and ego.

Shahira Knight, the White House's director of legislative affairs resigned yesterday, so I guess we should have seen this coming. The White House isn't particularly interested in legislation.

To be fair, though, Benghazi...

[_ajax18]

The election of 2016 has not been a peaceful transition of power. Democrats still can't seem to accept the results of the election.

Do you live in Nancy Pelosi's district MeDotOrg? Would you agree with Hannity's assessment of seeing people with Pelosi's kind of money (worth over $36 million) just down the street to a crumbling sidewalk where the homeless have pitched their tents, full of drug needles, and human feces. Why doesn't Pelosi give even a million to build these people in her sanctuary city a bumplex with showers, a kitchen, and some public bathrooms so these people don't have to take a dump on the street? Is liberalism really about being generous with other people's money but not your own? It sure seems that way.

And why haven't 13% state income taxes eliminated the homeless problem that exists in large California cities? Democrats have been in power in San Francisco forever. And yet large parts of these cities look like little 3rd world banana republics. What caused this if not liberal policies in action?

[_MeDotOrg]

The election of 2016 has not been a peaceful transition of power. Democrats still can't seem to accept the results of the election.

Do you live in Nancy Pelosi's district MeDotOrg? Would you agree with Hannity's assessment of seeing people with Pelosi's kind of money (worth over $36 million) just down the street to a crumbling sidewalk where the homeless have pitched their tents, full of drug needles, and human feces. Why doesn't Pelosi give even a million to build these people in her sanctuary city a bumplex with showers, a kitchen, and some public bathrooms so these people don't have to take a dump on the street? Is liberalism really about being generous with other people's money but not your own? It sure seems that way.

And why haven't 13% state income taxes eliminated the homeless problem that exists in large California cities? Democrats have been in power in San Francisco forever. And yet large parts of these cities look like little 3rd world banana republics. What caused this if not liberal policies in action?

I'm not sure what this has to do with Trump walking out of an infrastructure meeting. If it was because Nancy Pelosi hasn't solved homelessness in San Francisco, it would have been nice to inform the Democrats before the meeting. But again, his legislative director quit the day before, so I don't think the White House had any legitimate agenda. The walkout was obviously staged.

The issue is not homelessness in San Francisco. This issue is running the U.S. Government. When Nixon and Clinton were being investigated and later when Clinton was impeached, neither made an embargo on continuing to work with Congress. They still continued to try to pass legislation for the good of the country. We need an infrastructure bill. We have crumbling bridges and roads. This is a real safety issue for many bridges across this country. We are not talking about social programs or abortions or guns or anything controversial. We are talking repairing and expanding the infrastructure of this country to meet the transportation and communication demands of the 21st Century.

The concept that you cannot legislate while investigating is simply not true. Historically, it has been done time and time again. This is an area where Democrats and Republicans could work together and actually accomplish something together for the good of the country. But for the President, nothing is more important what is reported in the media. And when Nancy Pelosi said that he was engaged in a coverup, the President could not separate the hit to his Narcissism from the Country's need for Infrastructure repair and rebuilding.

Think about the legal precedents that will be set for future Presidents if Trump were to win his cases: A President could not be investigated for wrongdoing by the Congress. Among all Americans, the President would be excluded from having his taxes subpoenaed by Congress. There will be no checks and balances. It is this assault on the traditional Constitutional balance of powers where I find the aquiencense of Republicans most troubling.Perhaps the GOP thinks the enhanced power of the Executive Branch is good, because it will give the President more power to move around a Congress that is not entirely malleable to his will.

But do you want those expanded powers for all future Presidents?

If Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren, for example, could wield the power envisioned by Trump's legal arguments, would you be comfortable with how much they could change the country over and under the objections of the opposition? And a country where all legislation stopped because the President is being investigated? What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

An imperial Presidency is on where you refuse to work with the legislature because you are under investigation. Trump may hate Pelosi's guts (and vice versa) but that is irrelevant. There is a country to run, where we can.

[_Brackite]

The election of 2016 has not been a peaceful transition of power. Democrats still can't seem to accept the results of the election.

During the 2018 midterm elections, The Democrats won as many as 40 House seats and won a Senate seat from Arizona for the first time in 30 years. The Democrats gain of 40 House seats was the most House seats that they gained since 1974. Link
It is Trump and most of his loyal Republican supporters who haven't been able to accept the results of the 2018 midterm elections. President Trump is unwilling to compromise and work with Congressional Democrats.

[_canpakes]

Do you live in Nancy Pelosi's district MeDotOrg? Would you agree with Hannity's assessment of seeing people with Pelosi's kind of money (worth over $36 million) just down the street to a crumbling sidewalk where the homeless have pitched their tents, full of drug needles, and human feces. Why doesn't Pelosi give even a million to build these people in her sanctuary city a bumplex with showers, a kitchen, and some public bathrooms so these people don't have to take a dump on the street? Is liberalism really about being generous with other people's money but not your own? It sure seems that way.

And why haven't 13% state income taxes eliminated the homeless problem that exists in large California cities? Democrats have been in power in San Francisco forever. And yet large parts of these cities look like little 3rd world banana republics. What caused this if not liberal policies in action?

ajax, if your argument now turns to pretending that we can ignore infrastructure problems because particular people exist in Congress that you want to characterize as coastal elites, then what was your rationalization for voting for a man who’s entire persona was built around being the ultimate coastal elite?

And pretending that homelessness and/or poverty is simply or entirely a creation of ‘liberal policies’ (which you leave undefined) is nonsensical. Look around in your own neighborhood first and tell me why it isn’t a booming utopia of wealth brought about by a resurgent coal industry and conservative ideology, based in community values of inexpensive land and housing with affordable medical care ... or restored infrastructure.

Your mention of Hannity is ironic. Hannity is an owner of quite a few rental properties. Maybe ask him how he sets his rents and if he discounts them below market rates because he loves America ... rather, does he contribute to the problem by gaining what he can by taking advantage of market forces and charging accordingly?

You’re being fed a tall tale by a man on TV who rants against convenient-sounding targets, yet who laughs at you for believing him, just as soon as the camera stops rolling. Distraction is key, and you’re playing your part.

[_ajax18]

When Nixon and Clinton were being investigated and later when Clinton was impeached, neither made an embargo on continuing to work with Congress.

The IRS already has Trump's taxes and can choose to do something about it if he hasn't paid but they have not. Taxes are very complex and he should be allowed to release them to the public or not. Who's to say when a wealthy Democrat (there are many) gets into office Republicans can't blackmail Democrats in the same way? Give us your private tax information or we'll impeach you.

[_canpakes]

When Nixon and Clinton were being investigated and later when Clinton was impeached, neither made an embargo on continuing to work with Congress.

The IRS already has Trump's taxes and can choose to do something about it if he hasn't paid but they have not. Taxes are very complex and he should be allowed to release them to the public or not. Who's to say when a wealthy Democrat (there are many) gets into office Republicans can't blackmail Democrats in the same way? Give us your private tax information or we'll impeach you.

Perhaps you should ask yourself why you believe that the tax information of government officials that can control or create legislation should not be visible to the public?

[_ajax18]

Perhaps you should ask yourself why you believe that the tax information of government officials that can control or create legislation should not be visible to the public?

I'd guess Trump has taken advantage of real estate laws. The media would spin this in an effort to get rid of him. It would come down the a few sound bytes and the general public would not understand. Do you think all the Democrat candidates will open up their records. How much did Bill Clinton get in donations from red china? We really didn't even hear about this because Fox News did not exist yet.

[_canpakes]

Perhaps you should ask yourself why you believe that the tax information of government officials that can control or create legislation should not be visible to the public?

I'd guess Trump has taken advantage of real estate laws. The media would spin this in an effort to get rid of him. It would come down the a few sound bytes and the general public would not understand. Do you think all the Democrat candidates will open up their records. How much did Bill Clinton get in donations from red china? We really didn't even hear about this because Fox News did not exist yet.

So you’re on board with the idea?

[_ajax18]

So you’re on board with the idea?

For me the real issue is the fruit of liberal vs. conservative legislation. It didn't bother me when Harry Reid went on and on about Mitt Romney's taxes and tithing deduction. Democrats were unmoved by Charlie Rangel, Al Sharpton, and Melissa Harris-Perry's tax scandals. All that really mattered was who says they're going to keep the gravy train running. Comrade DeBlasio paid an effective 9% total tax rate in the overtaxed state of New York due to losses he claimed on his real estate. The left was unconcerned. He was reelected with little reference to the issue other than over at Breitbart.