Schiff: Memo Of Trump Call a Fundamental Betrayal - Video

[_Nomomo]

Schiff calls memo of Trump call with Ukrainian President a "fundamental betrayal"
This video of Schiff's press conference tells it straight up, lays it all out as where it all stands at this point.

There is no valid argument whatsoever that Trump has not betrayed his oath of office.

Anyone arguing against the fact that Trump has betrayed his oath of office can only look foolish, as they would be one of two things, either they are an ignorant fool, or a dishonest lying ass.

Video starts at 6:30 > https://youtu.be/jYxCIaYGlmA?t=387

[_moksha]

Maybe White House staffers wrote an unfavorable "redacted transcript" making Trump look like an unrepentant liar. What we need is for Congressional lawyers to hear the full recording so they can better understand the nuances of Trump's bull in a China shop approach. Don't want any fudging of the evidence.

[_Dr Exiled]

Maybe White House staffers wrote an unfavorable "redacted transcript" making Trump look like an unrepentant liar. What we need is for Congressional lawyers to hear the full recording so they can better understand the nuances of Trump's bull in a China shop approach. Don't want any fudging of the evidence.

If the recording is still available, the congressional lawyers can listen. Maybe the recording suffered a fate similar to Clinton's server a la bleachbit?

[_moksha]

If the recording is still available, the congressional lawyers can listen.

Sounds like it was recorded by several US agencies and at least the Ukraine.

[_Dr Exiled]

If the recording is still available, the congressional lawyers can listen.

Sounds like it was recorded by several US agencies and at least the Ukraine.

Let's hear it then and see if there was an actual quid pro quo. The memorandum didn't show it at least to the level of what Biden bragged that he did when he claimed he threatened to withhold billions in guarantees if Shokin wasn't fired.

[_moksha]

The memorandum didn't show it at least to the level of what Biden bragged that he did when he claimed he threatened to withhold billions in guarantees if Shokin wasn't fired.

Is this more baseless Republican political dynamiting, or is it more along the lines of a porn-ring run out of a pizza joint that Alex Jones could help bring to the American public without tarnishing the Presidency?

[_Dr Exiled]

The memorandum didn't show it at least to the level of what Biden bragged that he did when he claimed he threatened to withhold billions in guarantees if Shokin wasn't fired.

Is this more baseless Republican political dynamiting, or is it more along the lines of a porn-ring run out of a pizza joint that Alex Jones could help bring to the American public without tarnishing the Presidency?

I want to defeat Trump but I think the place to do it is on the pocketbook issues. Bernie Sanders agenda would win in a landslide however that isn't what the billionaire democratic donors want.

Of course you are free to use apologist tactics to attack when someone doesn't religiously, automatically, agree with the current play that was called by the donor class. I could be wrong, but the current whistleblower complaint issue seems like a loser, just like russiagate was. It's the economy stupid and ending the wars abroad. That's what will defeat Trump.

I guess I fail the corporate Democrat loyalty test because I'd like to see more information prior to foaming at the mouth on this one. So that makes me an alex jones supporter? Did not know that.

You know the republicans will compare this to what Biden already admitted to doing. So, it seems to me that if the democrats cannot show that Trump's quid pro quo was worse than the blatant Biden action, then the public won't be convinced and Trump will gain by being the martyr, by running against the mainstream media and his invented "deep state" "swamp" bogey man. I don't think we should play into this and give Trump something with which he can rally his troops. I guess we'll see if they can make the case. However, at this point, the whistleblower complaint seems weak. He/she wasn't a direct witness.

[_canpakes]

You know the republicans will compare this to what Biden already admitted to doing.

Who was Biden speaking for, versus Trump?

What was the purpose of withholding aid in the situation where Biden was the messenger, versus Trump’s situation?

There are relevant differences here, although Republicans will pretend that there are not.

[_Dr Exiled]

You know the republicans will compare this to what Biden already admitted to doing.

Who was Biden speaking for, versus Trump?

What was the purpose of withholding aid in the situation where Biden was the messenger, versus Trump’s situation?

There are relevant differences here, although Republicans will pretend that there are not.

Before y'all grab your pitchforks, I'm just saying that this is where the battle will be fought on this issue. If we can recall, Biden said he would withhold $1 Billion in loan guarantees if Shokin wasn't fired and Shokin was supposedly fired six hours later. Maybe Biden was bragging and misstated actually what happened. The guy likes to plagiarize so perhaps his comment was not exactly what happened. However, this is what the Repos and Fox will crow about and use as a measuring stick against whatever comes of this whistleblower complaint.

I think it is a waste of time and what the democratic house should be doing is passing pocketbook legislation that the people want like reforming the affordable care act by adding in a single payer component. If the republicans stop this, then there is an issue the democrats can run on.

[_Res Ipsa]

Exiled, Biden didn’t make that threat to gain personal advantage over a political rival. The whistleblower complaint is evidence that the scandal was not just one phone call. It was a concerted effort over several months, with many government officials scrambling to cover for Trump and preserve our relationship with Ukraine.

Trump’s bad behavior has escalated because he’s been shielded from any consequences. He is blatantly corrupt and will sell the actual interests of the US out for personal gain. He’s dangerous to our National Security. He is exactly the kind of president that the impeachment clause should address.

It’s time to remove him from office.