Can a clever person give me an example of a Hegelian Dialectic?

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_Doctor CamNC4Me
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Can a clever person give me an example of a Hegelian Dialectic?

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As if you were explaining it to a 5-year-old? In other words, pick an easily relatable topic, employ the HD, and do it in a way that it's impossible for a 5-year-old not to get the point.

Any help would be appreciated.

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Re: Can a clever person give me an example of a Hegelian Dialectic?

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Not being a clever person myself, I did find something Physics Guy said in a discussion last year that started around the ABC model of LDS history illuminating. Might not be what you had in mind but you might check out that discussion.

Here's the relevant quote and then the link:
Secondly, though, some kind of ABC story is also familiar to me from teaching physics. If you have to lecture on something you usually start out cribbing from some textbook but at some point you become unhappy. The textbook doesn't make sense. It's conspicuously silent about obvious questions. Dang it, somebody oughta do this right! So you start out to fix the textbook and the fixing project turns out be a hideous rabbithole. Eventually, though rarely in time for your lecture, you thresh it all out to your own satisfaction. And you often have to admit in the end that the textbook was actually right, in a way—in a legitimate way—that might well have been a suitable treatment of the topic for a class at that level mumble mumble grumble.

So I think it's possible for a pattern of ideas like the apologists' ABC to be perfectly right. You can start from an A and wander around in a big spiral B until you arrive at a C that is pretty much where A was, in most respects, except just shifted along a bit in some directions. Sometimes that's how learning looks. Just because the apologists are selling a C story doesn't mean they are wrong. The issues are whether their C really stands against B and whether it really agrees with A in any meaningful way.
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Re: Can a clever person give me an example of a Hegelian Dialectic?

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Certs is a breath mint.
Certs is a candy mint.
Certs is both a breath and a candy mint.

Can't help you with that clever person part.
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Re: Can a clever person give me an example of a Hegelian Dialectic?

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You could convince the child that agreement is undesirable.
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