The Nehor wrote: I don't want to sit in an endowment room with someone who is high or drunk or smells of cigarette smoke.
..or someone who had a cup of tea that morning;)
Since all Mormons want to be Christ-like, the only people I remember Christ kicking out of the temple were the money-changers. It seems he welcomed the drunks and the cigarette smokers, and all people who were struggling with sin. Jesus didn't seem to mind the smell of those he ministered to. Mormonism kinda flipped that idea on its head where the money changers, dressed in costly apparel, are welcomed with open arms while the filthy addicts are locked out.
"We of this Church do not rely on any man-made statement concerning the nature of Deity. Our knowledge comes directly from the personal experience of Joseph Smith." - Gordon B. Hinckley
"It's wrong to criticize leaders of the Mormon Church even if the criticism is true." - Dallin H. Oaks
It's sort of the same concept with denying the sacrament. Who is more in need of making a promise to Christ? The righteous who are following the commandments or the sinner who needs an extra bit of help?
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It's sort of the same concept with denying the sacrament. Who is more in need of making a promise to Christ? The righteous who are following the commandments or the sinner who needs an extra bit of help?
Yep. It's ass-backwards to me. There's an old saying that church should be a hospital for sinners, not a museum for saints. The Mormon church is the ultimate museum for saints. I suppose its why they call themselves saints. Only the saints can partake of the sacrament and attend the temple. The sinners are denied any of that. I know many TBMs who are Christ-like, but many would prefer attending church with other saints and not sit next to the unwashed sinners during church and temple services.
"We of this Church do not rely on any man-made statement concerning the nature of Deity. Our knowledge comes directly from the personal experience of Joseph Smith." - Gordon B. Hinckley
"It's wrong to criticize leaders of the Mormon Church even if the criticism is true." - Dallin H. Oaks
I wonder if Mormons (and other people of religions that forbid/frown on alcohol/cigarettes/etc) are above average weight. The reason I say this is that it seems to be the case, and I've often wondered if it's because when you take those other vices away from the choices, overeating becomes the default.
Maybe it's just that I live in the South where most people are both religious and fat.
God belief is for people who don't want to live life on the universe's terms.
I know one thing for sure. I just ate some cookies. 240 calories. Guess what? That's either coming out of dinner tonight, or I'm walking 2 1/2 miles tonight with the dogs.
Ain't got no thyroid problem. Ain't got no nuttin' problem. Gots me a fork, knife, and spoon problem.
antishock8 wrote:I know one thing for sure. I just ate some cookies. 240 calories. Guess what? That's either coming out of dinner tonight, or I'm walking 2 1/2 miles tonight with the dogs.
"We of this Church do not rely on any man-made statement concerning the nature of Deity. Our knowledge comes directly from the personal experience of Joseph Smith." - Gordon B. Hinckley
"It's wrong to criticize leaders of the Mormon Church even if the criticism is true." - Dallin H. Oaks
(Nevo, Jan 23) And the Melchizedek Priesthood may not have been restored until the summer of 1830, several months after the organization of the Church.
