Holland's "musket" speech caused people to leave the Church

[MG 2.0]

You, of course, are entitled to have your own opinion in this matter.

Regards,
MG

It’s not opinion. Holland’s talk was the catalyst to people leaving the church. See the OP. It’s a hard fact.

People will often find reasons to do what they want to do.

Regards,
MG

[I Have Questions]

It’s not opinion. Holland’s talk was the catalyst to people leaving the church. See the OP. It’s a hard fact.

People will often find reasons to do what they want to do.
Regards,
MG

They didn’t find a reason, it was thrust upon them by Holland’s ill-judged and terribly worded hyperbole. He’s bears the responsibility for members leaving the Church. When Holland speaks, it’s really not clear how much thinking has been done. It’s not the first stupid thing he’s said in public.

[malkie]

People will often find reasons to do what they want to do.
Regards,
MG

They didn’t find a reason, it was thrust upon them by Holland’s ill-judged and terribly worded hyperbole. He’s bears the responsibility for members leaving the Church. When Holland speaks, it’s really not clear how much thinking has been done. It’s not the first stupid thing he’s said in public.

In a more general sense, of course, MG's statement is true: "People will often find reasons to do what they want to do.", or, conversely, people will often find reasons not to do what they don't want to do. Even people who consider themselves to be "faithful".

[MG 2.0]

They didn’t find a reason, it was thrust upon them by Holland’s ill-judged and terribly worded hyperbole. He’s bears the responsibility for members leaving the Church. When Holland speaks, it’s really not clear how much thinking has been done. It’s not the first stupid thing he’s said in public.

In a more general sense, of course, MG's statement is true: "People will often find reasons to do what they want to do.", or, conversely, people will often find reasons not to do what they don't want to do. Even people who consider themselves to be "faithful".

That is also true.

Regards,
MG

[sock puppet]

They didn’t find a reason, it was thrust upon them by Holland’s ill-judged and terribly worded hyperbole. He’s bears the responsibility for members leaving the Church. When Holland speaks, it’s really not clear how much thinking has been done. It’s not the first stupid thing he’s said in public.

In a more general sense, of course, MG's statement is true: "People will often find reasons to do what they want to do.", or, conversely, people will often find reasons not to do what they don't want to do. Even people who consider themselves to be "faithful".

And as the OP noted, sometimes that reason is because they find an organization's rhetoric and culture offensive.

[I Have Questions]

In a more general sense, of course, MG's statement is true: "People will often find reasons to do what they want to do.", or, conversely, people will often find reasons not to do what they don't want to do. Even people who consider themselves to be "faithful".

And as the OP noted, sometimes that reason is because they find an organization's rhetoric and culture offensive.

Especially when it’s thrust down their throats via a tub thumbing call to arms by one of their leaders.

[Moksha]

And as the OP noted, sometimes that reason is because they find an organization's rhetoric and culture offensive.

People want to hear a religious message that sounds Godly, not one of hateful beligerence. Filter the message through the lens of love.