Think racism isn't taught to Mormon kids? Think again.

[_Drifting]

If the Nephites got this wrong and God didn't curse the Lamanites with a black skin. How can you trust anything in the Book of Mormon written by Nephites?

I thought it was quite clear. I'm not six years old. I can employ a bit more sophistication in understanding the text than what a child might employ - such as reasoning, knowledge, experience, and oh yes, inspiration from God from time to time.

So you rely on inspiration from God to interpret correctly the things the Nephites wrote and to determine which parts of the Book of Mormon are incorrect teachings.

Did the Nephites write anything else in the Book of Mormon that you have determined by inspiration is incorrect?

Also, why does your inspiration Trump the inspiration that the Nephites used to write the book in the first place and the inspiration of Joseph Smith who determined the book was true and the inspiration that tells the people taking Moroni's challenge that the book is the truth?

[_Chap]

If the Nephites got this wrong and God didn't curse the Lamanites with a black skin. How can you trust anything in the Book of Mormon written by Nephites?
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You missed answering this bit...

I thought it was quite clear. I'm not six years old. I can employ a bit more sophistication in understanding the text than what a child might employ - such as reasoning, knowledge, experience, and oh yes, inspiration from God from time to time.

Listen children, and Chap will teach you the ways of wisdom: God has taught unto his servant Tobin a great and wondrous principle.

And it is this: If the plain and literal meaning of the Book of Mormon seems to affirm some embarrassingly racist idea of the kind that was common amongst white Americans in the early 19th century, when the book was written, be not cast down! Because it just can't mean anything like that.

[_Tobin]

I see no evidence of change and reform in the LDS church. Nor have I seen an ability of the aforementioned.
H.

Now you are being disingenous. The ending of the practice on polygamy

Um, did they do that because it was the right thing to do, or did they do that because of other reasons?

Who cares?!? It is evidence of change that you claim you do not see.

...and the racist policy banning blacks from the priesthood are well-known changes for example.

Once again, did they do this because it was the right thing, or did they do it for other reasons? And, did they apologize for this racism? Or do they still stand behind the policy, and simply say "we just don't know why blacks were banned"?

Again, it doesn't matter. It is still evidence of change.

Many of the teachings of BY have been completely disavowed and we are seeing the teaching of men becoming God as being denied (I don't know we teach that) as well.

b***s***. I could point to dozens of places where 'gods in embryo' are still taught. And seriously, who gives a rats vagina if that is still taught - it's quirky, but hardly offensive.

When leaders of the church disavow things like this, like President Hinckley did on CNN - then that is a clear sign that it is on its way out. Of course you can find evidence of it still. It takes time to remove things like this.

Overtime, the Church will dispose of many of its bad practices and become more Christian. You can clearly see the signs of that in many of their statements (or because members such as myself are pushing for these reforms).

You misunderstand. I don't give a s*** if the church becomes more Christian, more Jewish, more Muslim, more Hindu, more Coptic, more Buddhist, or more Atheist. It needs to become less hateful (ie gays), less misogynist, and less controlling.
Go ahead, change that.
H.

As I've said, change is happening. Many Mormons are speaking out about how gays are treated by the Church. There is a generational conflict going on and the leadership isn't apt to change overnight. It took over a century to remove the ban of blacks from the priesthood. It will take some time to see change in these policies as well.

[_Tobin]

I thought it was quite clear. I'm not six years old. I can employ a bit more sophistication in understanding the text than what a child might employ - such as reasoning, knowledge, experience, and oh yes, inspiration from God from time to time.

So you rely on inspiration from God to interpret correctly the things the Nephites wrote and to determine which parts of the Book of Mormon are incorrect teachings.

Did the Nephites write anything else in the Book of Mormon that you have determined by inspiration is incorrect?

Also, why does your inspiration Trump the inspiration that the Nephites used to write the book in the first place and the inspiration of Joseph Smith who determined the book was true and the inspiration that tells the people taking Moroni's challenge that the book is the truth?

As I said, I'm not six years old and listed a number of techniques I use to approach the Book of Mormon. I wish you'd use some adult techniques too instead of latching onto the idea that I simply employ inspiration to understand the Book of Mormon.

[_Tobin]

Listen children, and Chap will teach you the ways of wisdom: God has taught unto his servant Tobin a great and wondrous principle.

And it is this: If the plain and literal meaning of the Book of Mormon seems to affirm some embarrassingly racist idea of the kind that was common amongst white Americans in the early 19th century, when the book was written, be not cast down! Because it just can't mean anything like that.

Chap, you seem to be only good at misrepresenting what I said instead of dealing with what I've stated. When you wish to discuss what I'm saying instead of your version of what I said, let me know.

[_Drifting]

Did the Nephites write anything else in the Book of Mormon that you have determined by inspiration is incorrect?

Also, why does your inspiration Trump the inspiration that the Nephites used to write the book in the first place and the inspiration of Joseph Smith who determined the book was true and the inspiration that tells the people taking Moroni's challenge that the book is the truth?

Bump for the non six year old Tobin.

[_Tobin]

Did the Nephites write anything else in the Book of Mormon that you have determined by inspiration is incorrect?

Also, why does your inspiration Trump the inspiration that the Nephites used to write the book in the first place and the inspiration of Joseph Smith who determined the book was true and the inspiration that tells the people taking Moroni's challenge that the book is the truth?

Bump for the non six year old Tobin.

I already responded to you Drifting. Deal with it.

[_Chap]

Listen children, and Chap will teach you the ways of wisdom: God has taught unto his servant Tobin a great and wondrous principle.

And it is this: If the plain and literal meaning of the Book of Mormon seems to affirm some embarrassingly racist idea of the kind that was common amongst white Americans in the early 19th century, when the book was written, be not cast down! Because it just can't mean anything like that.

Chap, you seem to be only good at misrepresenting what I said instead of dealing with what I've stated. When you wish to discuss what I'm saying instead of your version of what I said, let me know.

I am quite happy for our readers to make up their minds which one of us is in closer touch with reality.

[_Drifting]

I already responded to you Drifting. Deal with it.

You are lacking the minerals to answer your way out of the hole you dug for yourself. Even a six year old would have answered...

[_Tobin]

Chap, you seem to be only good at misrepresenting what I said instead of dealing with what I've stated. When you wish to discuss what I'm saying instead of your version of what I said, let me know.

I am quite happy for our readers to make up their minds which one of us is in closer touch with reality.

Ah, so the real Chap is revealed. He is someone that is satisfied by misrepresentation and pandering to a crowd. I don't think that speaks very highly of your character, but that is your problem.