We know who his source is.
Hey consig, how many THRIVE events have you spoken at lately?
You do? How so? Where's the actual malice? What did Jenn Kamp say that she KNEW was false and harmful to JD?consiglieri wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 2:52 amI think a reasonable jury could find “actual malice” from Jenn Kamp’s actions.jpatterson wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 12:42 amFirst, it's slander, not libel.
Second, I would LOVE to see John Dehlin try to sue anyone for slander. Dude passes the public figure test easily.
LOLOLOL if Open Stories Foundation had the balls to sue ANYONE for defamation they'd have done it by now.consiglieri wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:54 pmI think Jenn Kamp is doing her level-headed best to give Open Stories Foundation fodder for their inevitable defamation counterclaim.
You know, I seem to recall that last time something like this happened, consiglieri had the evidence to back up his claims, the very evidence that contradicted a certain aggrieved party's whoppers.jpatterson wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 3:22 pmI love how now you've turned into the guy who shows up here as a John Dehlin simp with zero evidence. How the tables have turned.
No, he cherry picked evidence (specific text messages) to back up a false narrative that he helped JD concoct. Evidence you accepted hook-line-and-sinker while ignoring any exculpatory evidence presented on Rosebud's part.Kishkumen wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 3:49 pmYou know, I seem to recall that last time something like this happened, consiglieri had the evidence to back up his claims, the very evidence that contradicted a certain aggrieved party's whoppers.jpatterson wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 3:22 pmI love how now you've turned into the guy who shows up here as a John Dehlin simp with zero evidence. How the tables have turned.
I am pretty sure he has the evidence this time too.
What exculpatory evidence? The evidence of her claims and stories?jpatterson wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 3:53 pmNo, he cherry picked evidence (specific text messages) to back up a false narrative that he helped John Dehlin concoct. Evidence you accepted hook-line-and-sinker while ignoring any exculpatory evidence presented on Rosebud's part.
Broken record from a founding member of the DM Circle Jerk crew. No interest in rehashing everything with you.Kishkumen wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 4:03 pmWhat exculpatory evidence? The evidence of her claims and stories?jpatterson wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 3:53 pmNo, he cherry picked evidence (specific text messages) to back up a false narrative that he helped John Dehlin concoct. Evidence you accepted hook-line-and-sinker while ignoring any exculpatory evidence presented on Rosebud's part.
I saw the text messages. We all read them. They did not make Rosebud look like an innocent victim of John Dehlin.
Since that time it has been more of the same empty accusations trotted out by ambitious would-be stars of (ex-)Mormonism such as Kate Kelly and that pillar of stability and sanity Kwaku El.
You are blinded, man. It is truly a bizarre phenomenon. I get that you resent John Dehlin and feel hurt about your failed relationship with him. Just get over it and move on. Each new time you come on here without anything to back up your attacks on John Dehlin, it gets increasingly pathetic.
jpatterson, did you watch the video? If so, what are your thoughts on the matter, specifically regarding her accusations that JD colluded with donors to deny her their donations?Doctor CamNC4Me wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 9:54 amAh, thanks for the correction, but wouldn’t YouTube qualify as a “fixed medium” that can be viewed repeatedly and therefore be libelous, too? I dunno; I’m not a lawyer. Anyway, did you watch the bit between 3:05-3-15? She’s making the claim that she was personally injured through a direct effort by donors to ‘boycott’ her because of JD’s direct involvement. That seems like a pretty serious defamation directed toward JD.jpatterson wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 12:42 am
First, it's slander, not libel.
Second, I would LOVE to see John Dehlin try to sue anyone for slander. Dude passes the public figure test easily.
- Doc
eta: in fact, now that I think about it, isn’t a video considered a publication? The fact that I can point out the exact timestamp of a defamatory statement is akin to pointing to a magazine article on page and paragraph such and such, no? I think “publishing” includes online content such as videos. I could be wrong, though. Counselors?
Because you know where this all leads. Hate to tell you, but, if you think we lack credibility, take a look in the mirror.jpatterson wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 4:07 pmBroken record from a founding member of the DM Circle Jerk crew. No interest in rehashing everything with you.
I did watch the video. What she described aligns with what I know about how John feels about donations and how he handles donations and how he handles the management of donations.Doctor CamNC4Me wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 4:33 pm
jpatterson, did you watch the video? If so, what are your thoughts on the matter, specifically regarding her accusations that John Dehlin colluded with donors to deny her their donations?
- Doc