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I Have Questions wrote:
Wed Jul 09, 2025 4:09 pm
Rivendale wrote:
Tue Jul 08, 2025 11:29 pm
In the comments on the reverse board believers are claiming Governor Cox's plead for prayers for moisture were answered with a monumental snowfall? And the proprietor’s response is that people believe it works. Believing in a magical world view allows this.
They are simply accepting the “hits” as divine intervention, and dismissing the “misses” as not evidence of a lack of divine intervention. It’s very difficult to discuss things rationally with such irrationally minded people.
If something isn't true everything can count as evidence. The videos A Marvelous Work illustrates this. In the episode "How great the evidence" they go all over the planet finding things that could be a Book of Mormon site or artifact. Museums are full of Nephite artifacts according to apologists.
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Gadianton wrote:
Tue Jul 08, 2025 12:10 am
First Rusty can't get a revelation that would ever actually help a person that needed help and adding to that, he can't even convince the majority of his followers, 64%, to abstain from murder.
Gadianton, I am puzzled, for better or worse I have no idea what you are thinking of here.
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The Great Prayer Experiment, also known as the Templeton Foundation Prayer Study, was a large-scale, ten-year clinical trial that aimed to investigate the effects of intercessory prayer on patients undergoing cardiac bypass surgery. The study, funded by the John Templeton Foundation, involved 1,802 patients and found that prayer, as delivered in the study, did not significantly improve patient outcomes. In fact, some results suggested that patients who knew they were being prayed for experienced more complications.
It’s that old Mormon trickster God again. Making sure that prayer studies show prayer makes people worse, and putting Early Modern English into the Book of Mormon!

The LDS church needs a new top apologist. DCP has been reduced to reposting links that his friends email him. Absolutely feckless.
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drumdude wrote:
Wed Jul 09, 2025 4:28 pm
The Great Prayer Experiment, also known as the Templeton Foundation Prayer Study, was a large-scale, ten-year clinical trial that aimed to investigate the effects of intercessory prayer on patients undergoing cardiac bypass surgery. The study, funded by the John Templeton Foundation, involved 1,802 patients and found that prayer, as delivered in the study, did not significantly improve patient outcomes. In fact, some results suggested that patients who knew they were being prayed for experienced more complications.
It’s that old Mormon trickster God again. Making sure that prayer studies show prayer makes people worse, and putting Early Modern English into the Book of Mormon!

The LDS church needs a new top apologist. DCP has been reduced to reposting links that his friends email him. Absolutely feckless.
I’ve been wondering lately what would make for a truly compelling apologist for Mormonism since the golden age of Mopologetics has slipped and now we have lots of surface level apologists rehashing the same points again and again. I would hope for someone like Dan McLellan who I genuinely feel educated by at the end of a video but alas he’s not an apologist.
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Ego wrote:
Wed Jul 09, 2025 5:31 pm
drumdude wrote:
Wed Jul 09, 2025 4:28 pm


It’s that old Mormon trickster God again. Making sure that prayer studies show prayer makes people worse, and putting Early Modern English into the Book of Mormon!

The LDS church needs a new top apologist. DCP has been reduced to reposting links that his friends email him. Absolutely feckless.
I’ve been wondering lately what would make for a truly compelling apologist for Mormonism since the golden age of Mopologetics has slipped and now we have lots of surface level apologists rehashing the same points again and again. I would hope for someone like Dan McLellan who I genuinely feel educated by at the end of a video but alas he’s not an apologist.
David Bokovoy might be good. He argued for the catalyst method for the Book of Abraham while he was employed by BYU and was apparently shot down and then released. He interviewed for a tenured position and he has said the question that disqualified him was probably the one that asked him what he would tell one of his students if they found some of his non faith promoting explanations online. That might work against him although McClellan seems to have survived his online critics.
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