Excellent takedown of Mopologist DNA misinformation

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The mental gymnast doesn't 'appreciate' being called a bigot. Simple solution: stop being a bigot.
malkie wrote:
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Fri Aug 29, 2025 2:48 am
If everyone was open to the Book of Mormon being true we would have a lot more people living a life that…honestly…many if not most people don’t want to live. Starting with ten percent of your income and more. A LOT of folks aren’t into sacrifice beyond the simple stuff.

Believing in the Book of Mormon would be dangerous. It would wreak havoc with the lifestyle many want to live. Agnostics, for one example, LOVE being agnostic. They can make stuff up. :lol:

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MG
Wow - talk about bigotry! It's almost as if you don't think that Mormons make stuff up.

Look around you at the religious folks in your country, including those who are religious leaders - especially, it seems, the "religious" right. They are very adept at making stuff up, and at supporting made-up stuff. They think nothing of preaching the opposite of what was taught by the Jesus they purport to follow. No wonder people are leaving religion - including varieties of Christianity, and Mormonism. How many of your fellow Utahns voted for Trump?

Remind me - how is it we know if people are Jesus' disciples?

Give me an agnostic any time, rather than one of these faux "Christians".

I agree that believing in the Book of Mormon would be dangerous. Just like believing in dianetics, or any other religious fairy tale.
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MG 2.0 wrote:
Fri Aug 29, 2025 2:48 am
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Fri Aug 29, 2025 1:43 am
It’s gotta be exhausting, like trying to explain to flat earth believers why the world is round.

The Nephites and their fictional history will never be studied in secular colleges. No one will get a degree in Lamanite studies.

But actually… if Trump is any sign of the future… then maybe they will.
If everyone was open to the Book of Mormon being true we would have a lot more people living a life that…honestly…many if not most people don’t want to live. Starting with ten percent of your income and more. A LOT of folks aren’t into sacrifice beyond the simple stuff.

Believing in the Book of Mormon would be dangerous. It would wreak havoc with the lifestyle many want to live. Agnostics, for one example, LOVE being agnostic. They can make stuff up. :lol:

Regards,
MG
Do you reject Scientology because you don’t want to live the Scientology lifestyle? Do you reject it because you don’t want to sign a trillion year contract?

Come on MG. You’re projecting here.
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Marcus wrote:
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Perego crashed and burned and what was left was him resorting to unfounded speculation to try and defend against the obvious. What he said amounted to “Well they might have been bred out of existence, perhaps, maybe, there’s possibly a chance that that may have happened.” Without providing any supportive substance for how he reached that conclusion. That’s maybe why he ran away to hide out in Italy (did he fall or was he pushed?) doing something other than genetics.
It makes one wonder, doesn't it?
It does.
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
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drumdude wrote:
Fri Aug 29, 2025 4:37 am
Do you reject Scientology because you don’t want to live the Scientology lifestyle? Do you reject it because you don’t want to sign a trillion year contract?

Come on MG. You’re projecting here.
Most Mormons reject Scientology (and any other religious sect) because it’s not the one they were born and brought up in. It really is as simple as that.
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
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drumdude wrote:
Fri Aug 29, 2025 4:37 am
MG 2.0 wrote:
Fri Aug 29, 2025 2:48 am
If everyone was open to the Book of Mormon being true we would have a lot more people living a life that…honestly…many if not most people don’t want to live. Starting with ten percent of your income and more. A LOT of folks aren’t into sacrifice beyond the simple stuff.

Believing in the Book of Mormon would be dangerous. It would wreak havoc with the lifestyle many want to live. Agnostics, for one example, LOVE being agnostic. They can make stuff up. :lol:

Regards,
MG
Do you reject Scientology because you don’t want to live the Scientology lifestyle? Do you reject it because you don’t want to sign a trillion year contract?

Come on MG. You’re projecting here.
I reject it because it doesn’t allow for a creator God. In the sense that we are created after His image and that God created the earth and all that is in it.

Regards,
MG
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MG 2.0 wrote:
Fri Aug 29, 2025 8:59 pm
drumdude wrote:
Fri Aug 29, 2025 4:37 am
Do you reject Scientology because you don’t want to live the Scientology lifestyle? Do you reject it because you don’t want to sign a trillion year contract?

Come on MG. You’re projecting here.
I reject it because it doesn’t allow for a creator God. In the sense that we are created after His image and that God created the earth and all that is in it.
So, you're rejecting Scientology not because it's a ridiculous pyramid scheme/cult founded by a pulp fiction author, but because it lacks a "creator God"? Wow, that's truly profound. You're basically saying, "I can't get behind this particular ridiculous pyramid scheme/cult because it doesn't align with something in my own ridiculous pyramid scheme/cult."
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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
Fri Aug 29, 2025 9:59 pm
MG 2.0 wrote:
Fri Aug 29, 2025 8:59 pm
I reject it because it doesn’t allow for a creator God. In the sense that we are created after His image and that God created the earth and all that is in it.
So, you're rejecting Scientology not because it's a ridiculous pyramid scheme/cult founded by a pulp fiction author, but because it lacks a "creator God"? Wow, that's truly profound. You're basically saying, "I can't get behind this particular ridiculous pyramid scheme/cult because it doesn't align with something in my own ridiculous pyramid scheme/cult."
He has to make this ridiculous argument to maintain his belief that we’re not practicing Mormons because it’s “too difficult to live the law.”
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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
Fri Aug 29, 2025 9:59 pm
MG 2.0 wrote:
Fri Aug 29, 2025 8:59 pm
I reject it because it doesn’t allow for a creator God. In the sense that we are created after His image and that God created the earth and all that is in it.
So, you're rejecting Scientology not because it's a ridiculous pyramid scheme/cult founded by a pulp fiction author, but because it lacks a "creator God"? Wow, that's truly profound. You're basically saying, "I can't get behind this particular ridiculous pyramid scheme/cult because it doesn't align with something in my own ridiculous pyramid scheme/cult."
No. Your comprehension is lacking. Also memory. We’ve been up and down and all over on this topic.

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drumdude wrote:
Fri Aug 29, 2025 10:33 pm
Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
Fri Aug 29, 2025 9:59 pm
So, you're rejecting Scientology not because it's a ridiculous pyramid scheme/cult founded by a pulp fiction author, but because it lacks a "creator God"? Wow, that's truly profound. You're basically saying, "I can't get behind this particular ridiculous pyramid scheme/cult because it doesn't align with something in my own ridiculous pyramid scheme/cult."
He has to make this ridiculous argument to maintain his belief that we’re not practicing Mormons because it’s “too difficult to live the law.”
That seems to what a number of critics online are referring to when they call the LDS Church a “high demand religion”. I’ve heard that now a number of times.

Not sure what you mean by “this ridiculous argument”. That there would be a creator God? What is so ridiculous about that?

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MG 2.0 wrote:
Fri Aug 29, 2025 11:56 pm
drumdude wrote:
Fri Aug 29, 2025 10:33 pm
He has to make this ridiculous argument to maintain his belief that we’re not practicing Mormons because it’s “too difficult to live the law.”
That seems to what a number of critics online are referring to when they call the LDS Church a “high demand religion”. I’ve heard that now a number of times.

Not sure what you mean by “this ridiculous argument”. That there would be a creator God? What is so ridiculous about that?
Well, when people talk about the Mormon church being a "high demand religion," I think they're simply being dramatic. I mean, it's only a tenth of your income, a lifetime of service, and a wardrobe of silly/sacred underwear. These aren't demands, they're more like suggestions... really, really strong suggestion that are tied to your eternal salvation and your family.

Of course, the idea of a creator Mormon God isn't ridiculous. It's perfectly reasonable. What could possibly be more logical than an all-powerful being who created the entire universe but is also deeply concerned with your underwear and whether you drink coffee? It all just makes perfect sense. And as a bonus, this Mormon God will occasionally help you find your car keys. Just don't make this Mormon God angry, you wouldn't like him when he's angry.

That's some great missionary work, fibber MG.
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