jon wrote:Again why?
If you want softball questions and faith promoting answers and a place where hostility is dealt with by an iron fist then we all know the online location where that can be had.
I actually head over to that board at times. I'm not keen on the moderating. I'm not up on the attitude of many of the posters there, so I envision this place re-directing its course from being a more open rfm.
The rules here allow for assertive and aggressive questioning and debate. They allow for people being called out when they mislead, fudge or generally offer garbage in the place where facts should be.
People are allowed to express themselves and are allowed to be challenged. You are allowed to challenge people on wether or not they are whining.
I've already said I agree with the rules. I'm on board on that part of this board.
I don't see an environment that is hostile to participants.
Of courseyou don't. Sadly, that's the problem. Decent folks like you are a bit blinded by it all.
I see an environment that Mormonism may find hostile to the veracity of it's claims because facts can be openly expressed and debated without fear of censure.
Rarely do i see conversations take place where mere facts are discussed openly. That's the problem. I see hostility earmarking nearly every criticism. Pesonal jabs and attacks are frequent and very little listening or respect is given to those who defend. Indeed, at times, the defenders are often maligned, shouted out, and demonized. its not fun to watch. I wish others were wililng to open up and see it.
I suppose it's all about perception and people seeing what they want to see. You see hostility where I see people being open and candid.
There’s nothing mutually exclusive on this. One can be open and candid and still be hostile to others. I think that’s pretty common here.
You seem to want to 'cure' the board from things that you personally don't like, rather than allow people the freedom of expression which is an integral (and in my opinion healthy) part of this boards modus operandi.
You, uncharitably, misunderstand. I want the freedom of expression to remain but I also would enjoy by appealing to the decency of posters, that they participate sans the hostility, the disingenuous snobbiness, and the personal hostility that many a defender faces when one shows up.
Direct, hostile, personal attacks get dealt with by the mods so I do not think the board needs a self appointed 'mother'. Perhaps if you focus on the content and substance of the debates rather than peoples individual style of posting, you may get more benefit (and less perceived hostility) out of your activity here.
Just a suggestion - not a whine! ;-)
I’ve tried to play along as you have suggested. It only got worse. I’m sorry you miss it. I’m sorry you are unable or unwilling to see it. I think most if they were honest with themselves could recognize it. Its just obvious that there are plenty who are mad at the prospect of a change in the atmosphere. People like how its heavily favored towards hostility department. I get that. But I think if they were true to themselves they would prefer not to be so hostile. Indeed, ‘m sure most aren’t as hostile in person, but when anonymous on a message board, they seem to say what they please offend as they must with impunity.