In a nutshell we disagree on the value/potential of unborn life while still in the womb.
Why do you think that? Apparently on your beliefs god doesn’t care about abortion as demonstrated by his unwillingness to prevent any. That sounds to me that your value for unborn fetus only matters as a political ploy?
We also disagree as to the existence of a creator God.
That wraps it up.
I don’t think so. There were plenty other points of disagreement.
Final question. I assume that you’re a dad. Do you have daughters? If so (and if not, let’s speak hypothetically), would you encourage your daughters to get elective abortions if their pregnancy was either unwanted or they were in school or in a career and felt like it just wasn’t the right time to have children? Or they simply talked it over with their significant other, he didn’t want the child, so abortion seemed the easiest thing to do without any consequences?
Personally, I would not want to have missed the birth of any one of our grandchildren. They are each special. I am happy that our daughters and their husbands chose life rather than it’s annihilation.
Regards,
MG
Beats me what I’d do. I’m quite supportive as a parent, so it’d depend on the situation and everything involved.
“Every one of us is, in the cosmic perspective, precious. If a human disagrees with you, let him live. In a hundred billion galaxies, you will not find another.”
― Carl Sagan, Cosmos
In a nutshell we disagree on the value/potential of unborn life while still in the womb.
Why do you think that? Apparently on your beliefs god doesn’t care about abortion as demonstrated by his unwillingness to prevent any. That sounds to me that your value for unborn fetus only matters as a political ploy?
We also disagree as to the existence of a creator God.
That wraps it up.
I don’t think so. There were plenty other points of disagreement.
Final question. I assume that you’re a dad. Do you have daughters? If so (and if not, let’s speak hypothetically), would you encourage your daughters to get elective abortions if their pregnancy was either unwanted or they were in school or in a career and felt like it just wasn’t the right time to have children? Or they simply talked it over with their significant other, he didn’t want the child, so abortion seemed the easiest thing to do without any consequences?
Personally, I would not want to have missed the birth of any one of our grandchildren. They are each special. I am happy that our daughters and their husbands chose life rather than it’s annihilation.
Regards,
MG
Beats me what I’d do. I’m quite supportive as a parent, so it’d depend on the situation and everything involved.
Safe answer.
So it sounds as though there is a possibility you might discourage them for one reason or another from getting an abortion depending on circumstances. I wonder what those might be.
When it hits close to home these situations can be a challenge can’t they?
In a nutshell we disagree on the value/potential of unborn life while still in the womb.
We also disagree as to the existence of a creator God.
That wraps it up.
Final question. I assume that you’re a dad. Do you have daughters? If so (and if not, let’s speak hypothetically), would you encourage your daughters to get elective abortions if their pregnancy was either unwanted or they were in school or in a career and felt like it just wasn’t the right time to have children? Or they simply talked it over with their significant other, he didn’t want the child, so abortion seemed the easiest thing to do without any consequences?
Personally, I would not want to have missed the birth of any one of our grandchildren. They are each special. I am happy that our daughters and their husbands chose life rather than it’s annihilation.
Regards,
MG
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Care to answer the one final question? I can understand why you may not want to but I’m curious how your current beliefs either do or don’t impact how you would respond in regards to your own daughters or granddaughters and their husbands (I don’t know how old you are although my guess is you’re in the 30-40 year old range).
Older than that if you’re a grandpa.
Regards,
MG
Let’s see you respond to one or two of my many questions but for some reason you bump your question to me before I had a chance to respond? Ah well…what can we expect?
“Every one of us is, in the cosmic perspective, precious. If a human disagrees with you, let him live. In a hundred billion galaxies, you will not find another.”
― Carl Sagan, Cosmos
Why do you think that? Apparently on your beliefs god doesn’t care about abortion as demonstrated by his unwillingness to prevent any. That sounds to me that your value for unborn fetus only matters as a political ploy?
I don’t think so. There were plenty other points of disagreement.
Beats me what I’d do. I’m quite supportive as a parent, so it’d depend on the situation and everything involved.
Safe answer.
So it sounds as though there is a possibility you might discourage them for one reason or another from getting an abortion depending on circumstances. I wonder what those might be.
When it hits close to home these situations can be a challenge can’t they?
Thanks.
Regards,
MG
No one is saying one’s decision on abortion is anything but challenging. Still it’d be nice if you ventured a response to my questions.
“Every one of us is, in the cosmic perspective, precious. If a human disagrees with you, let him live. In a hundred billion galaxies, you will not find another.”
― Carl Sagan, Cosmos
Let’s see you respond to one or two of my many questions but for some reason you bump your question to me before I had a chance to respond? Ah well…what can we expect?
You asked a few questions and if I’m not mistaken I commented on what you had said for the most part.
As far as knowing the mind of God and being able to determine the reasons for why he allows things to happen in the realm of miscarriages and spontaneous abortions, I’ve commented on that. If there is one particular question that you asked that you think I ought to have a firm answer on go ahead and throw it my way again.
I think I’ve covered the bases that I feel anywhere near qualified to answer though.
In a nutshell we disagree on the value/potential of unborn life while still in the womb.
Why do you think that? Apparently on your beliefs god doesn’t care about abortion as demonstrated by his unwillingness to prevent any. That sounds to me that your value for unborn fetus only matters as a political ploy?
We also disagree as to the existence of a creator God.
That wraps it up.
I don’t think so. There were plenty other points of disagreement.
These two pretty much cover it.
You have to remember that the existence of a creator God, for me, takes care of asking questions that there really isn’t any firm answer for. Well, they CAN be asked, but at the end of the day there are things we just don’t know.
This is where my faith that a loving God will always do the right thing kicks in.
What are the scenarios, again, where it’s acceptable to “kill an innocent baby”?
Because I want to make sure we’re all clear that the Mormon church, and then by extension MG, are in fact pro-choice.
- Doc
The Church allows for possible exceptions for its members when:
Pregnancy results from rape or incest, or
A competent physician determines that the life or health of the mother is in serious jeopardy, or
A competent physician determines that the fetus has severe defects that will not allow the baby to survive beyond birth.
Even these exceptions do not automatically justify abortion. Abortion is a most serious matter. It should be considered only after the persons responsible have received confirmation through prayer.
Rape or incest, mother might die, the fetus might come out bad or will not survive beyond birth, and if god confirms the decision through prayer.
I think mg might disagree with the church but he’s not being very clear. Also it seems mg disagrees with god who has been responsible for most abortions. Then again he thinks we have to forget our reasoning when it comes to god because his ways are not our ways and he has to assume god will only do good things like save fetus’ who are going to abort, but then he doesn’t do that, so….let’s just say mg is full of contradiction and lacks a desire to be reasonable.
“Every one of us is, in the cosmic perspective, precious. If a human disagrees with you, let him live. In a hundred billion galaxies, you will not find another.”
― Carl Sagan, Cosmos
