Holland to NOMs: Expect "a lot of long nights & empty nets"
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Holland to NOMs: Expect "a lot of long nights & empty nets"
Cafeteria, picking and choosing, Mormonism principles will lead to "a lot of long nights and empty nets".
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Re: Holland to NOMs: Expect "a lot of long nights & empty ne
sock puppet wrote:Cafeteria, picking and choosing, Mormonism principles will lead to "a lot of long nights and empty nets".
What does that mean?
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Re: Holland to NOMs: Expect "a lot of long nights & empty ne
John 21
"Others cannot endure their own littleness unless they can translate it into meaningfulness on the largest possible level."
~ Ernest Becker
"Whether you think of it as heavenly or as earthly, if you love life immortality is no consolation for death."
~ Simone de Beauvoir
~ Ernest Becker
"Whether you think of it as heavenly or as earthly, if you love life immortality is no consolation for death."
~ Simone de Beauvoir
Re: Holland to NOMs: Expect "a lot of long nights & empty ne
brade wrote:sock puppet wrote:Cafeteria, picking and choosing, Mormonism principles will lead to "a lot of long nights and empty nets".
What does that mean?
He never really explained the metaphor. Gaging from the talk, I think he meant that if you cherry pick, you will not live a truly happy life, and you do not truly love the Lord.
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Re: Holland to NOMs: Expect "a lot of long nights & empty ne
This vague warning actually sounds sensible to me.
You are better off rejecting the whole steaming pile instead of picking through for nuggets of truth. Wash yourself clean and start over fresh. Anything that is true in Mormonism can be found outside Mormonism too.
You are better off rejecting the whole steaming pile instead of picking through for nuggets of truth. Wash yourself clean and start over fresh. Anything that is true in Mormonism can be found outside Mormonism too.
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Re: Holland to NOMs: Expect "a lot of long nights & empty ne
liz3564 wrote:He never really explained the metaphor. Gaging from the talk, I think he meant that if you cherry pick, you will not live a truly happy life, and you do not truly love the Lord.
Oh, that's obviously true.

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The Dude wrote:This vague warning actually sounds sensible to me.
You are better off rejecting the whole steaming pile instead of picking through for nuggets of truth. Wash yourself clean and start over fresh. Anything that is true in Mormonism can be found outside Mormonism too.
Easy to say when your marriage doesn't hang in the balance.
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Re: Holland to NOMs: Expect "a lot of long nights & empty ne
It can be quite similar to picking a favorite apostle over one who's words you don't like when both apostles believe and teach the same doctrine.
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Re: Holland to NOMs: Expect "a lot of long nights & empty ne
Whilst on LDS.org it comes across that it's okay from members to be 'cafeteria ' in nature...
“Members of the Church vary in their levels of participation or belief."
“Members of the Church vary in their levels of participation or belief."
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.”
Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
"One, two, three...let's go shopping!"
Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator
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Re: Holland to NOMs: Expect "a lot of long nights & empty ne
The Dude wrote:This vague warning actually sounds sensible to me.
You are better off rejecting the whole steaming pile instead of picking through for nuggets of truth. Wash yourself clean and start over fresh. Anything that is true in Mormonism can be found outside Mormonism too.
Sensible advice and so very true.
In my mind, NoM's are some of the healthiest Mormons emotionally; they like aspects of Mormonism, but have moved beyond the fear mongering and being controlled.
The NoM's are probably the biggest thorn for the leadership. They exists within the ranks, but are assimilated so well that they are hard to spot...and they aren't going to be full believers ever again.
Kind of like a tare that you cannot separate from the wheat.