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Vogel Responds of Josh Gehly on Stone Box
Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2026 2:17 pm
by dan vogel
Come watch my new video— “Did Anyone See the Empty Stone Box? A Response to Josh Gehly” – premieres on Tuesday, 21 April 2026, at 7 pm Mountain Time. This video critically assesses Josh Gehly’s claim that the empty stone box remained exposed for decades after Joseph Smith removed the plates in 1827.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMwhWR124RY
Re: Vogel Responds of Josh Gehly on Stone Box
Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2026 3:32 pm
by Shulem
Dan,
This is one of my favorite topics. It should prove very interesting! Thank you for your scholarly pursuits and willingness to freely share your talents.
Re: Vogel Responds of Josh Gehly on Stone Box
Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2026 6:36 pm
by Kishkumen
Re: Vogel Responds of Josh Gehly on Stone Box
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2026 2:55 am
by dan vogel
Yup! And his fellow apologists are eating it up.
Re: Vogel Responds of Josh Gehly on Stone Box
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2026 11:38 am
by Kishkumen
dan vogel wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2026 2:55 am
Yup! And his fellow apologists are eating it up.
Hope springs eternal, I guess. Have you ever read Umberto Eco's
Baudolino? I am so often reminded of his account of the Holy Grail when I encounter LDS apologetics on gold-plates-related stuff.
Re: Vogel Responds of Josh Gehly on Stone Box
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2026 6:23 pm
by Shulem
I enjoyed Vogel's scholarship and his rebuttal.
The Missing Box is a real problem. The specially prepared stone box made of New York stone and the hole in which old Moroni dug out with his own sweat and tears was simply left by Joe-blow who didn't give a rat's ass about the sacred spot of ground upon which he knelt while beholding an angel of light. He left no marker, no stake, no monument, no nothing. The whole story about the plates and box is just another made up story just like you read about in the Book of Mormon,
this, being a prime example.
