Media tipped the scales in Obama's favor

[_Bob Loblaw]

I think today is 1968 for the republican party. All talking points aside, the democratic party tacked to the center so hard that the current president is in Nixon territory on some issues. Blaming the "liberal" media is part of what cost Romney the election. Talk radio and Fox created a separate reality that wasn't real. And lots of folks believed it. I hope the republican party cleans out the crazies and tacks back to the center. We'll see.

I think there's some truth to that. The GOP listens to Fox News, whereas the Democrats generally ignore MSNBC. I've always thought it was funny that most journalists report on conservatives as if they were anthropologists describing a completely alien culture. But that's how things work, and conservatives have to figure out how to work around that, as they have in the past. Creating a Fox News/Limbaugh/WND bubble clearly isn't working.

[_Kevin Graham]

I hate it when people blame things on everything except the truth: we conservatives did not run a good campaign, and most Americans are not as conservative as we are. Todd Akin and Richard Mourdock, "47%" and so on--these were gifts wrapped and tied with bows for Democrats. We'll win elections when we stop running on extreme social positions and start spelling out what we stand for. My principles do not include hatred for minorities, women, and the poor, but that's how we have allowed ourselves to be portrayed. It's our fault, no one else's.

You lost because Romney is out of touch with America. I said it before and I'll say it again. You can't court the extremists in your party and then pretend to be something or a moderate. FOX News, which is essentially Romney headquarters, has been providing Romney with all his lies and talking points throughout this campaign. They're always going to try to justify their bias by whining about the "Liberal Media," claiming to be the "counterweight" in journalism. But there is no left wing station out there that could possibly compare to FOX. Nowhere. MSNBC is highly biased, but it doesn't embrace the lunatics on the far left.

The problem today's Republican party has is that they only see black and white. You're either a Democrat/Socialist or a Republican/American. They didn't account for the fact that many voting Americans fall somewhere in the middle. And I hope they remain firm in their delusions, at least until after Hillary wins in 2016 and universal healthcare becomes a reality.

[_Kevin Graham]

In reality the Left Wing media gave Romney a HUGE pass when it came to his religion. If they were half as critical of Mormonism as the Right Wing media is of Obama's Christianity, then Romney probably never would have been nominated to begin with.

I mean, how can you nominate a guy whose religion teaches that his opponent was disobedient in the preexistence, and was cursed with black skin as a result?

If this fact had hit the air waves, then that would have been all she wrote for Romney.

But the Left just sat on this information and did nothing with it. Why? Because they aren't FOX News and Talk Radio.

[_Bob Loblaw]

You lost because Romney is out of touch with America.

I believe I said that, or were you too busy gloating to notice?

I said it before and I'll say it again. You can't court the extremists in your party and then pretend to be something or a moderate. FOX News, which is essentially Romney headquarters, has been providing Romney with all his lies and talking points throughout this campaign. They're always going to try to justify their bias by whining about the "Liberal Media," claiming to be the "counterweight" in journalism. But there is no left wing station out there that could possibly compare to FOX. Nowhere. MSNBC is highly biased, but it doesn't embrace the lunatics on the far left.

I agreed with you until your last sentence. No, there aren't any left-wing nutjobs on MSNBC. To quote Frasier Crane, "What color is the air on the planet where you live?"

The problem today's Republican party has is that they only see black and white. You're either a Democrat/Socialist or a Republican/American. They didn't account for the fact that many voting Americans fall somewhere in the middle. And I hope they remain firm in their delusions, at least until after Hillary wins in 2016 and universal healthcare becomes a reality.

We are not monolithic and never have been. Stop pretending we're all racist hicks who want, in EJ Dionne's word, to "take us back to the Gilded Age." That's complete BS. I suppose it makes you feel better to pretend there are no thoughtful, intelligent conservatives out there based on conversations with Droopy and bcspace.

[_Brackite]

In reality the Left Wing media gave Romney a HUGE pass when it came to his religion. If they were half as critical of Mormonism as the Right Wing media is of Obama's Christianity, then Romney probably never would have been nominated to begin with.

I mean, how can you nominate a guy whose religion teaches that his opponent was disobedient in the preexistence, and was cursed with black skin as a result?

If this fact had hit the air waves, then that would have been all she wrote for Romney.

But the Left just sat on this information and did nothing with it. Why? Because they aren't FOX News and Talk Radio.

Lawrence O'Donnell on MSNBC made a big issue out of the Priesthood ban in the LDS Church before 1978. See e.g. http://thelastword.msnbc.com/_news/2012 ... -mormonism

[_Res Ipsa]

We are not monolithic and never have been. Stop pretending we're all racist hicks who want, in EJ Dionne's word, to "take us back to the Gilded Age." That's complete b***s***. I suppose it makes you feel better to pretend there are no thoughtful, intelligent conservatives out there based on conversations with Droopy and bcspace.

I wholeheartedly agree. I think there are lots of thoughtful, intelligent conservatives out there, and I miss hearing their voices.