You are questioning the authority of Jehovah Himself. One day you will have to stand before God and explain your blasphemous comments.
The atrocities in other parts of the world are a hundred times worse than Israel. What about Congo, Uganda, Rwanda, Syria, Somalia? Are you aware that 50,000 Christians are in concentration camps in North Korea?
Where is your sense of humanity?
No! I am not questioning the authority of Jehovah or any other deity. I am questioning the authority and credibility of men past or present who claim to speak for Jehovah. Nothing is more deservedly suspect than the claim, "God told me so!" If you are at all historically literate, you know that many of the worst and most persistent scams and atrocities ever perpetrated were instigated by pious idiots claiming divine authority for what they did and threatening death and/or eternal damnation for anyone who doubted them.
Please read my signature line.
No precept or claim is more suspect or more likely to be false than one that can only be supported by invoking the claim of Divine authority for it--no matter who or what claims such authority.
I said that 2/3rds of Israelis will die under the rule of the Antichrist during the Tribulation. The remnant will then flee to the mountains of Petra where God will look after them.
You are questioning the authority of Jehovah Himself. One day you will have to stand before God and explain your blasphemous comments.
The atrocities in other parts of the world are a hundred times worse than Israel. What about Congo, Uganda, Rwanda, Syria, Somalia? Are you aware that 50,000 Christians are in concentration camps in North Korea?
Where is your sense of humanity?
And of course, I'm aware that there are atrocities in other parts of world as bad or worse than anything Israel has been guilty of, including atrocities that radical Palestinians have done to Israel, but that doesn't excuse any that have been committed by Israel. And of course, I'm aware that tens of thousands or even hundreds of thousands of people, including Christians, are in concentration camps in North Korea (and other places as well), which is a great tragedy, but none of that invalidates anything I have said to you.
Last edited by Gunnar on Sat Apr 11, 2026 10:21 am, edited 1 time in total.
No precept or claim is more suspect or more likely to be false than one that can only be supported by invoking the claim of Divine authority for it--no matter who or what claims such authority.
I said that 2/3rds of Israelis will die under the rule of the Antichrist during the Tribulation. The remnant will then flee to the mountains of Petra where God will look after them.
Shouldn't this make you happy?
No! Believe it or not, I don't have any vendetta against Israelis. I believe that Israelis are generally good and admirable people just trying to live productive and normal lives like most of us. It is my understanding that even many Israelis are as appalled by the cruel, inhumane and murderous excesses of their government's and IDF's reaction to Hamas's very real atrocities against Israeli settlers as most of the rest of the world is. I don't believe for a minute that the indiscriminate mass extermination of almost 80,000 Gazan civilians, including women and children and relief workers was either necessary or justifiable. It is the over-the-top cruelty and excesses of the Israeli Government that I have an issue with, not Israelis in general.
You understand, don't you, that only a small minority of Palestinians are Hamas? It is my understanding that most of them don't even like Hamas!
No precept or claim is more suspect or more likely to be false than one that can only be supported by invoking the claim of Divine authority for it--no matter who or what claims such authority.
Ok so what do you believe is the solution to the Arab Israeli conflict?
I don't presume to know how best to resolve the Arab Israeli conflict. I only know that to begin with, both sides have to set aside their presently intractable and irrational hatred for each other and engage in civil discourse to find solutions that are of mutual benefit to both sides.
No precept or claim is more suspect or more likely to be false than one that can only be supported by invoking the claim of Divine authority for it--no matter who or what claims such authority.
This thread is another prime example of religion making a person dumber than they would be without it.
I'm always amused when someone invokes some kind of judgment day, because you know they're expressing that their god would judge exactly like they do. It's hilarious and pathetic.
One interesting thing about mighty, all-powerful gods is that they are very obedient and respectful of the wishes of the person who made them up.
Religion is for people whose existential fear is greater than their common sense.
Can you imagine saying this to someone? “Hey we’ve all decided that this is no longer your home. Oh you’re asking where should you go? Jordan or some other place I guess. You just can’t stay here.”
