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There is no answer, and you’re not supposed to ask. You are expected to merely accept the phrase.

One might conclude, though, that the early 80’s could fit - a glorious time of corduroys, boomboxes, casual racism, and the Soviet Union.
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canpakes wrote:
Mon Sep 22, 2025 11:58 am
There is no answer, and you’re not supposed to ask. You are expected to merely accept the phrase.

One might conclude, though, that the early 80’s could fit - a glorious time of corduroys, boomboxes, casual racism, and the Soviet Union.
From the quotes I see above, it looks as if the only attempt so far to answer to the question "so when WAS America, by your reckoning, "great'?" is in effect "when it was great".

Can any person who basically identifies with the MAGA movement kindly tell us when America was, as they see it, "great"?
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Its usually implied it was the post-WW2 period before the culture wars of the 1960s. It has a certain nostalgic quality for many, one that is quite comfortable with the systems in place making America great for folks who were white, Protestants and a one income household was more the norm.
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honorentheos wrote:
Mon Sep 22, 2025 12:35 pm
Its usually implied it was the post-WW2 period before the culture wars of the 1960s.
Before the Civil Rights Era. Back when there was segregation.
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Kishkumen wrote:
Mon Sep 22, 2025 12:38 pm
honorentheos wrote:
Mon Sep 22, 2025 12:35 pm
Its usually implied it was the post-WW2 period before the culture wars of the 1960s.
Before the Civil Rights Era. Back when there was segregation.
Yep.
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It also was a time when a person could potentially get a job with limited education, buy a house, raise a family, and collect a pension after. The Trump tariff policies are built in large part on a fiction around why that is not possible today.
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Hound of Heaven wrote:
Mon Sep 22, 2025 9:34 am
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Mon Sep 22, 2025 7:25 am
Make America Great Again was first used as a slogan by Ronald Reagan in the 80’s, Bill Clinton in the 90’s, Trump in 2010’s and again in the 2020’s.

So my question is really for those who rally behind MAGA (or “Magadonians” as Trump calls his fans). What period in the history of America does the “Again” refer to?
Although I don't identify as MAGA at this moment, I fully grasp their perspective. MAGA represents a collective of individuals who recognize that Marxism has infiltrated a segment of the Democratic Party. They are determined to prevent America from being overtaken by progressives, the very group that subscribes to Marxist ideals. MAGA is not about returning to a specific moment in history, it focuses on making America great again, emphasizing a forward-looking perspective rather than dwelling on the past.

The video below exemplifies the essence of MAGA! Steven Miller is speaking at Charlie Kirk's memorial service, and if you genuinely want to grasp the essence of MAGA, you need to watch, it will explain why MAGA is triumphing over the Marxist progressives.
https://youtu.be/Xi3GlDMrB3s?si=7tDibG1H820jy6nU


A= XXXK the Marxist!
Truly deranged. That speech is certainly representative of MAGA. Though the claim it is looking forward should scare a person who loves democracy rather than excite them.
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honorentheos wrote:
Mon Sep 22, 2025 12:46 pm
Hound of Heaven wrote:
Mon Sep 22, 2025 9:34 am


Although I don't identify as MAGA at this moment, I fully grasp their perspective. MAGA represents a collective of individuals who recognize that Marxism has infiltrated a segment of the Democratic Party. They are determined to prevent America from being overtaken by progressives, the very group that subscribes to Marxist ideals. MAGA is not about returning to a specific moment in history, it focuses on making America great again, emphasizing a forward-looking perspective rather than dwelling on the past.

The video below exemplifies the essence of MAGA! Steven Miller is speaking at Charlie Kirk's memorial service, and if you genuinely want to grasp the essence of MAGA, you need to watch, it will explain why MAGA is triumphing over the Marxist progressives.
https://youtu.be/Xi3GlDMrB3s?si=7tDibG1H820jy6nU


A= XXXK the Marxist!
Truly deranged. That speech is certainly representative of MAGA. Though the claim it is looking forward should scare a person who loves democracy rather than excite them.
America hasn’t experienced Marxism; Hound seems confused.
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Kishkumen wrote:
Mon Sep 22, 2025 12:38 pm
honorentheos wrote:
Mon Sep 22, 2025 12:35 pm
Its usually implied it was the post-WW2 period before the culture wars of the 1960s.
Before the Civil Rights Era. Back when there was segregation.
It will also be important to sanitize our history, so that sensitive MAGA snowflakes won’t be offended by it.
National park to remove photo of enslaved man’s scars
The Trump administration is ordering the removal of information on slavery at multiple national parks in an effort to scrub them of “corrosive ideology.”
September 15, 2025 at 5:55 p.m. EDTyesterday at 5:55 p.m. EDT

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“The Scourged Back” shows the scarred back of escaped slave Peter Gordon in Louisiana, 1863. (McPherson & Oliver/National Gallery of Art)
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The Trump administration has ordered the removal of signs and exhibits related to slavery at multiple national parks, according to four people familiar with the matter, including a historic photograph of a formerly enslaved man showing scars on his back.

The individuals, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak with the media, said the removals were in line with President Donald Trump’s March executive order directing the Interior Department to eliminate information that reflects a “corrosive ideology” that disparages historic Americans. National Park Service officials are broadly interpreting that directive to apply to information on racism, sexism, slavery, gay rights or persecution of Indigenous people.

Following Trump’s order, Interior Department officials issued policies ordering agency employees to report any information, including signage and gift shop items, that might be out of compliance. Trump officials also launched an effort asking park visitors to report offending material, but they mostly received criticisms of the administration and praise for the parks.

The latest orders include removing information at Harpers Ferry National Historic Park in West Virginia, two people familiar with the matter said, where the abolitionist John Brown led a raid seeking to arm slaves for a revolt. Staff have also been told that information at the President’s House Site in Philadelphia, where George Washington kept slaves, does not comply with the policy, according to a third individual.

Jonathan Zimmerman, a University of Pennsylvania professor who studies the history of education, said this is the latest installment in the Trump administration’s unprecedented interference with the nation’s civic institutions — a campaign which also includes Trump’s takeover of the Kennedy Center and attempts to pressure the Smithsonian.

“This represents an enormous increase in federal power and control over the things we learn,” Zimmerman said. “Brought to you by the team that says education should be state and local.”


Park Service spokesperson Rachel Pawlitz said in a statement that all signage is under review.

“Interpretive materials that disproportionately emphasize negative aspects of U.S. history or historical figures, without acknowledging broader context or national progress, can unintentionally distort understanding rather than enrich it,” Pawlitz said.

At Harpers Ferry, staff flagged more than 30 signs, according to a person familiar with the matter and documents reviewed by The Post, that highlight information potentially in violation of Trump’s policy. They include signs referring to racial discrimination and the hostility of White people to people who were formerly enslaved.

Park Service officials marked the submission as “out of compliance,” with staff now expected to cover up parts of signs or remove them, the person said.
Separately, Park Service officials have ordered the removal of a photograph illustrating violence against slaves, known as “The Scourged Back,” at one national park. The photograph, taken in 1863, shows scars on the back of a man probably named Peter Gordon from wounds inflicted by his masters before he escaped slavery.

The photo was circulated widely at the time, and Northern audiences were shocked at what the photo showed, said Anne Cross, a scholar of 19th century photography at Bowdoin College Museum of Art.

“The bodies of enslaved people like Peter Gordon revealed to them realities they had never seen with their own eyes before,” Cross said, “and in many cases it altered their political opinions about the need to defeat the Confederacy and preserve the Union.”

The photo has since become famous, taking on a greater meaning in the struggle for Black liberation, Cross said. The New Yorker integrated the image into a collage on its cover commemorating George Floyd, a month after his death at the hands of police. Later that year, Viola Davis appeared on the cover of Vanity Fair showing her back, with photographer Dario Calmese acknowledging that he sought to replicate the historic photo.

In his executive order, Trump singled out the “corrosive ideology” at Philadelphia’s Independence National Historical Park, where the founders signed the Declaration of Independence.

That park includes the President’s House Site, where George Washington served as president before the capital moved to Washington, D.C. The house was demolished in the 1800s, but an exhibit opened there in 2010 based on archaeological excavations.

Local advocates had pushed for the exhibit to provide in-depth information on the lives of nine people who were enslaved by George Washington while he lived in the house as president. The exhibit includes their names carved into a granite wall.
“This is not just a handful of signs that tell the story of slavery,” said Ed Stierli, senior Mid-Atlantic regional director at the advocacy group National Parks Conservation Association. “This is a place that tells the complete story not just of slavery in America, but what it was like for those who were enslaved by George Washington.”

Trying to extricate slavery from the President’s House exhibit would fundamentally change the nature of the site, said Cindy MacLeod, who was superintendent of Independence National Historical Park for 15 years until 2023.

“This is just one of many exhibits at Independence National Historical Park,” MacLeod said. “And to me, it’s a vital one.”
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There's no making America great, not when half the citizens want fascism.

It's hard to have a great country when it contains mostly morons.
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