Russia Likely Did Swing Votes For Donald Trump

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Markk wrote:But there is 2020, how would you feel about her running again if she is so highly qualified...in your opinion who is more qualified from the left?


How about Garcetti?
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Some Schmo wrote:True. But does that make her more qualified than say Bernie with his years of governing experience?


Well that's for voters to decide, but she clearly has a wider variety of experience:

10 years as the First Lady of Arkansas
8 years as the First Lady of the United States.
8 years as Senator from New York
4 years as Secretary of State

She's been well known since Life Magazine did a piece on her back in the late 60's when she was a student.

I don't know anyone with a more impressive resume.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Markk wrote:But there is 2020, how would you feel about her running again if she is so highly qualified...in your opinion who is more qualified from the left?


How about Garcetti?


Been to LA lately? ...you can't even walk downtown without seeing a tent with a shopping cart parked in front of it. And what is sad is that I am not embellishing this very much. If you could really see the direction LA, and So Ca, is heading...you would be more than shocked.

The economy is booming downtown...and I am sure he gets some credit for the building boom. And getting the Olympics there is a plus to his resume... and deservedly so in that it is his watch, but I really can't explain how bad LA is deteriorating.
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To solve homelessness you have to solve illegal immigration. What people don't want to admit, from Democrat vote seekers to Republican business types, is when you introduce millions of low-wage laborers you absolutely destroy the workers' ability to make a decent living. Couple that with population pressures on a given geographic area and you're going to get what you get.

No one is going to solve homelessness because no one will solve immigration. Between bleeding hearts and black hearts you get modern-day LA.

eta: You and your answer kind of underscore why people like Trump can get elected and why people like Hillary Clinton don't. You take a very competent person and reduce him or her down to a wedge issue and that's that. Garcetti is an extremely competent man, the consummate diplomat, and a good leader. None of that matters, and I'm fairly certain I could list of a 100 sourced reasons why I think he's a great candidate for the Democratic nomination, but you all you see are tents and drug users in LA ergo Garcetti is bad.

Crazy.

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Markk wrote:
Kishkumen wrote:Clinton was highly qualified for the job. Trump is highly unqualified and temperamentally unsuited for the job. Out of Clinton, Sanders, and Trump, I don't see how Clinton is not considered the best fit for the job. Trump is a walking nightmare of a human being. Had he not been born into money, he would be no one of note, and perhaps even in prison.


Was she really highly qualified?

She married into the white house and governors house, won the senate in a state that is one of the bluest states, was appointed SoS probably as a promise of endorsement, after losing a bid for president?

Trump has been greasing the pockets of politicians for decades, including the Clinton's...he knows how Washington works.

As far as temperament...Hillary Clinton was hated by those that worked for her..and her losing showed it...she couln't even address the thousands of people that worked for her the night she lost. Most everyone here that hates Trump, when talking about Hillary Clinton as a candidate, has to qualify that they really didn't like her as their choice...which in all reality says it all.

All there are is excuses as to why she lost, the reality is nobody likes her, including her husband.

But there is 2020, how would you feel about her running again if she is so highly qualified...in your opinion who is more qualified from the left?


It's interesting to see just how much bias can make you believe some really dumb things. Greasing the pockets of politicians does not mean one learns how government works other then in how to influence politicians to work for you. HC may not be a nice person, and maybe you could argue things like temperament make her less qualified, but questioning her qualifications while listing a number of things she has done which make her very qualified to know how the job works is really dumb. She has more qualifications then most people who have been president in my lifetime. Doesn't mean I want her as president, but I can at least be honest enough to see she has more qualifications them most people who have run for president.
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Markk wrote:Been to LA lately? ...you can't even walk downtown without seeing a tent with a shopping cart parked in front of it. And what is sad is that I am not embellishing this very much. If you could really see the direction LA, and So Ca, is heading...you would be more than shocked.

The economy is booming downtown...and I am sure he gets some credit for the building boom. And getting the Olympics there is a plus to his resume... and deservedly so in that it is his watch, but I really can't explain how bad LA is deteriorating.


If I am going to be homeless in the US, So Ca would be a top choice. Much better then being homeless in North Dakota.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:To solve homelessness you have to solve illegal immigration. What people don't want to admit, from Democrat vote seekers to Republican business types, is when you introduce millions of low-wage laborers you absolutely destroy the workers' ability to make a decent living. Couple that with population pressures on a given geographic area and you're going to get what you get.

No one is going to solve homelessness because no one will solve immigration. Between bleeding hearts and black hearts you get modern-day LA.

- Doc


Homelessness in LA, is hardly an immigration issue. It is a mental illness issue, drug and alcohol, and just flat out laziness is the problem. African Americans are the highest percentage of homeless downtown from a simple observation.

There seems to be more white homelessness towards the coast. San Diego is mixed, with a lot of white homeless downtown.

Drugs and Alcohol is the real issue.

They just cleaned out the Santa Ana River bed in Anaheim, they found over 8000 needles, gave the homeless 30 day motel vouchers, and act as if they are helping them.

The real reason was is that the encampment was visible from the freeway and behind the Big A, and near the pond and Disneyland. after 30 days they will just find another place.

The suburbs are what are being effected by Immigration...the rental rates versus home ownership is off the charts...and you have multiple families living in small homes and apartments. There is no pride of ownership and the neighborhood that were once awesome, and falling apart...Boyle Heights is a great example.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boyle_Hei ... os_Angeles

by the way, Ironically when I googled the link above...it shows a picture of Breed Street Shul in the top right hand corner. I actually partially restored that building about ten years ago or so. If you look close the fence is ten feet high with razor wire, and the street light pole just left of the Star of David has bullet proof glass over the lamp so they can't be shot out.

As soon as we restored the stain glass windows, about a 1/4 of a million in costs...the neighbors threw green lemons through the glass. They had the trees in the back yard and the green fruit was in the building that penetrated the glass...and I called the cops and they said unless I saw them throwing the fruit they could do nothing. There was also multiple bullet holes in the windows.

https://www.google.com/search?q=breed+s ... B052uNWhaM:

This last picture I just found, shows the razor wire and the bullet proof glass over the lamp...and I just noticed, which makes be sick, holes in the windows that we spent tens of thousand to restore. Incredible.

by the way, when we restored this we were told to stay within the fences during the day to avoid gang issues in that half of my crew were young white guys.
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Markk,

You're treating the symptoms and not the root cause. Either way, whether or not either one of us is right in our assessment of the situation, it's not going to get solved.

Ever.

And that's sad.

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Markk,

You're treating the symptoms and not the root cause. Either way, whether or not either one of us is right in our assessment of the situation, it's not going to get solved.

Ever.

And that's sad.

- Doc


If you are talking about feeding and giving clothing to the homeless...you are correct. I am not sure how I can address the root cause, which is drug addiction and mental illness.

I agree it won't ever get solved, but I believe if we really cared, we could but a dent in it, and reverse it to a large degree. It may be too late for SoCal...but not where most of you folks live, and if you think you are immune...you're not.


It is sad, very sad.
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Homelessness in LA, is hardly an immigration issue. It is a mental illness issue, drug and alcohol, and just flat out laziness is the problem. African Americans are the highest percentage of homeless downtown from a simple observation.


Aren't homes very expensive in SoCal? How do the people who work minimum wage jobs afford a place to live unless they put 20 people in a room with one bathroom, similar to BYU honor code approved student housing.
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