The First Plastic First Family

[_MeDotOrg]

Thou shalt level thy criticisms against the President.
Unless involved in his business or politics, thou shalt leave his family out of it.

On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

The problem is that he has involved his family in the politics. They're intertwined by virtue of the fact that he's handed them his companies while taking office. It's unconstitutional.

I have no truck with anyone who wants to go after Eric or Don Jr. or Ivanka or Jared about what they're doing to the country, or the horrible conflicts of interest they constantly present.

If Chelsea Clinton had plastic surgery, should Republicans have been talking about that if Hillary Clinton won?

The Trump administration is a target-rich environment with respect to criticizing politics and family ties to business and politics. It's my golden rule in politics: What's good for the goose is good for the gander. If you want to talk about hawking geegaws to enrich yourself vis a vis a post-election TV show, fine. Rip all the ones who did a new one.

Surgery isn't a conflict of interest crime.

[_Some Schmo]

There are probably as many reasons for cosmetic surgery and the way we change our "look" as there are patients and people.

Yep. That's likely true.

Surgery isn't a conflict of interest crime.

Absolutely. I didn't intend to imply that.

[_Dr. Shades]

The problem is that he has involved his family in the politics. They're intertwined by virtue of the fact that he's handed them his companies while taking office. It's unconstitutional.

To whom else should he have handed his companies while he devotes his time to the Presidency?

[_Kevin Graham]

The problem is that he has involved his family in the politics. They're intertwined by virtue of the fact that he's handed them his companies while taking office. It's unconstitutional.

To whom else should he have handed his companies while he devotes his time to the Presidency?

That's his problem. The man talks about how much he's sacrificed and he can't even sacrifice his businesses for the greater good of being President eh? No, it is all about stroking his ego.

[_Maksutov]

The problem is that he has involved his family in the politics. They're intertwined by virtue of the fact that he's handed them his companies while taking office. It's unconstitutional.

I have no truck with anyone who wants to go after Eric or Don Jr. or Ivanka or Jared about what they're doing to the country, or the horrible conflicts of interest they constantly present.

If Chelsea Clinton had plastic surgery, should Republicans have been talking about that if Hillary Clinton won?

The Trump administration is a target-rich environment with respect to criticizing politics and family ties to business and politics. It's my golden rule in politics: What's good for the goose is good for the gander. If you want to talk about hawking geegaws to enrich yourself vis a vis a post-election TV show, fine. Rip all the ones who did a new one.

Surgery isn't a conflict of interest crime.

Yeah, let's talk about emoluments.

[_Dr. Shades]

To whom else should he have handed his companies while he devotes his time to the Presidency?

That's his problem. The man talks about how much he's sacrificed and he can't even sacrifice his businesses for the greater good of being President eh? No, it is all about stroking his ego.

He IS sacrificing his businesses for the greater good of being President, isn't he?

[_Kevin Graham]

He IS sacrificing his businesses for the greater good of being President, isn't he?

Obviously he isn't sacrificing anything. How do you think he is? He's going to be making millions because of his Presidency. The concept of conflict of interest doesn't apply to Trump. He's already violated the emoluments clause of the constitution and because we have a blind Republican Congress, nothing is getting done about that. And "greater good" and Trump aren't words that should ever go together. Kinda like "Grandpa... naked."

[_Some Schmo]

[He IS sacrificing his businesses for the greater good of being President, isn't he?

Shades, you did see the thread on the fake props for his infomercial... er, press conference, didn't you? The one where he said he was handing his businesses over to his sons?

Honestly. Are you trying to tell us you don't realize this guy has no concern over American interests? That he's doing this only for his fragile ego and to line his pockets?

For a guy so worried about how people write, you don't seem to notice much of what they write.

[_Res Ipsa]

The problem is that he has involved his family in the politics. They're intertwined by virtue of the fact that he's handed them his companies while taking office. It's unconstitutional.

To whom else should he have handed his companies while he devotes his time to the Presidency?

I think EA addressed this in another thread. If he wants to be president, he should sell his businesses and put the money in a blind trust. The fact that that's a sacrifice for him isn't a reason to have to put up with a president who uses the office of the President as a profit seeking venture. Just as an example, Trump declared Mar a Lago his "winter white house." Then Mar a Lago doubled it's membership fees. Who profits? Trump.

His businesses are trying to profit off his status by tripling the number of Trump hotels in the U.S. during his presidency. Who profits? Trump.

It's public service. Not public profit.

by the way, last I saw that anyone looked, Trump still hadn't done the paperwork to even transfer his business interests. As of Inauguration Day, none of the required paperwork had been filed.

He IS sacrificing his businesses for the greater good of being President, isn't he?

We can't really tell, can we, without seeing the paperwork. You think we're going to get to see that? He may be giving up income and control for four years, but his kids will have control. And then in four years, he can have them back. In the meantime, because he knows what his businesses are, he can funnel money to them like all good banana republic dictators do. We saw him orchestrate his campaign to funnel money to his businesses. Why should we expect him to do anything different now?

[_Jersey Girl]

If Chelsea Clinton had plastic surgery, should Republicans have been talking about that if Hillary Clinton won?

She did. She had rhinoplasty. Was that an issue during the campaign? Was cosmetic procedures brought up at all by anyone during the campaign?

How does this matter?

It doesn't.

Just as an example, Trump declared Mar a Lago his "winter white house." Then Mar a Lago doubled it's membership fees. Who profits? Trump.

Baby steps. Explain to me how raising the membership fees of Mar a Lago have anything to do with him declaring it his winter white house?

Tell me why you think that?

[He IS sacrificing his businesses for the greater good of being President, isn't he?

Shades, you did see the thread on the fake props for his infomercial... er, press conference, didn't you? The one where he said he was handing his businesses over to his sons?

Honestly. Are you trying to tell us you don't realize this guy has no concern over American interests? That he's doing this only for his fragile ego and to line his pockets?

For a guy so worried about how people write, you don't seem to notice much of what they write.

Tell me what evidence there is that the folders were empty or the papers were blank. I've seen the assertion, I haven't seen the evidence that supports it.