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I thought that all husbands said those type of things to their wives- either joking or serious. He does both, but like I said I am very sensitve about that and maybe I am too easily offended.


OK...Now I REALLY want to bitch slap him.

You've got a PM coming your way.
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sailgirl7 wrote:That's a very positive way to look at it. Thank you for pointing that out to me. I want to believe that's what my husband meant. It's just confusing because when I did religiously wear my garments- he told me he wished I would take them off and wear lingerie more. He made fun of my "frumpy" clothes and always wanted me to dress sexier. But I was all about hiding in my garments.


Actually, I think your husband is an average guy, trying to find a balance between the church and his marriage. I think when you asked him that question, you put him on the spot, so he came up with something (garments) that symbolizes something (the church) that means a lot to him, but that he knows doesn't mean a lot to you. He loves you and wants you to feel the freedom to make your own choices, but it would be easier for him if you chose differently. You can't, and you won't, but that doesn't stop him hoping. It wasn't an indictment of your choices, so much as a wistful wish that you were on the same page as him. He respects your choices, but is wistful of his own. He's being hammered on all sides from a perspective you no longer respect, and it isn't easy for him.

Talking about it is the only way to reach an accord, but there's no saying he will talk, or that he will tell you what he's really thinking, if you do get him to talk. But I don't recommend broadsiding him again with a question like that. It puts him in an awkward place.

I guess this just brings up another sore issue I have- my body image is warped. I've struggled with that for many years. I am 5' 3" and weigh 122 pounds- but I honestly feel so huge.I might as well be a hippo. My husband tells me I need to be size 2 again( he mentions that about once a week)- but dang it- I've had 3 kids and it's hard to get there! I want to please my husband and be attractive- but at what cost to myself?


This is a different issue altogether. Your husband is a visual guy (most guys are). His only problem is he's still stuck in the past. You might want to play "One Hot Mama" by Trace Adkins around the house and pipe it into his pillow at night. He needs to realize that you aren't a Barbie doll that he gets to dress and play with. You aren't a playtoy who is only fun when she's a size 2 (size 2? Geez, I've been trying to put some weight on my DIL who is a size 2, and I've gotten her all the way up to a size 6 now. Size 2 is not at all healthy for a woman your height.) Women should keep their bodies as healthy as possible, and that does not mean getting down to pre-baby weight and size after every pregnancy. Women's bodies are designed to carry extra fat in order to feed (nurse) their babies and fuel their energy needs to raise (and chase) young children. Their hips and rib cage spreads during pregnancy and does not return to the pre-pregnancy size. Your self image is not predicated on his image of you. If you're comfortable in your skin, you will be attractive, no matter what your size.

I am not a small woman, but men still turn their heads when I walk into the room. Attractiveness is at least as much mental as it is physical. Standing tall, dressing appropriately, taking pride in your personal hygiene, and being comfortable in your skin will go a long ways to keeping your husband's eye fastened on you.

Your husband has some issues about women that could use some counseling. Or at least a good sit-down talk with you, wherein you must be brutally frank and tell him how much you perceive his references to your size in a negative manner. If he loves you and married you only because you were a size 2, and not because he loves you in sickness, in health, and in a size 6, then he needs to know how much that hurts you. He is young still, and as Liz says, men need to be taught how to successfully communicate with their spouse. Yours is not out of the ordinary in his thoughts or his speech. He just hasn't been taught yet.

So yes, I'm sure he meant well and I need to be more open-minded, it's just that within the context of everything it didn't seem like a compliment. I want to give him the benefit of the doubt. The problem lies in me.


None of this problem lies with you, per se. The problem that lies with you is that you internalize and personalize that which does not help you. Once you learn to internalize only that which helps you (even if it's criticism... some criticism is helpful), and let the rest fall off your back, your burdens will be lighter and your sense of who you are will be stronger.
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sailgirl7 wrote:
Who Knows wrote:
sailgirl7 wrote:My husband tells me I need to be size 2 again( he mentions that about once a week)- but dang it- I've had 3 kids and it's hard to get there! I want to please my husband and be attractive- but at what cost to myself?


RED FLAG! WARNING BELL!

That borders on emotional abuse. Wow. My wife would kick my ass if I ever hinted at such a thing.


I thought that all husbands said those type of things to their wives- either joking or serious. He does both, but like I said I am very sensitve about that and maybe I am too easily offended.


NO! Definitely not! We may think it occasionally (sorry women), but saying it, especially every week, is nothing less than abuse.
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Thank you, Harmony, for being the voice of reason.

You're a wise woman.
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sailgirl7 wrote: I am 5' 3" and weigh 122 pounds- but I honestly feel so huge.I might as well be a hippo. My husband tells me I need to be size 2 again( he mentions that about once a week)- but dang it- I've had 3 kids and it's hard to get there! I want to please my husband and be attractive- but at what cost to myself? So yes, I'm sure he meant well and I need to be more open-minded, it's just that within the context of everything it didn't seem like a compliment. I want to give him the benefit of the doubt. The problem lies in me.


Oh, my God! That's emotional abuse, Sailgirl! My husband has pulled the same crap before but the repercussions were so severe, he's kept his mouth shut ever since! Besides, 5'3 and 122? That's sounds fine to me! I'm also 5'3, but am five pounds heavier than you and although I'd love to lose fifteen pounds, I think I look hot anyway! Start showing some cleavage and dressing sexier and when other men start putting the moves on you, your husband will change his tune! Worked with my hubby, lol!

You're being put through too much right now and the last thing you need to worry about is being a size two. I've never been a size two in my life, and wouldn't want to be. Men like a few curves in the right places and if you've got them, flaunt them, sister. Don't worry about the size 2 bull crap.

You're smart, funny and skinny. :) Be happy about it!

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Harmony,

Wise words indeed! Thank you for posting that response- I'll take what you have to say and really ponder it. You have helped me with your insight.

KimberlyAnn,

Thank you for your support too- you are right- I have much to be grateful for. I really have to focus on that more and not worry so much about unimportant things. And you're right about something else too- you are hot! I love the picture- you are very pretty indeed! :)

Who Knows,
Your wife is very lucky to have you! You sound like such a great guy! :)
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5-3, 122......sounds pretty good to me. Tell your husband to build those pecs and tighten his ass, and increase those arms by 4 inches. He'll shut up. Or buy him a damn plastic skeleton and tell him to screw it. Seriously your husband is starting to irritate me mightily.
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Bond...James Bond wrote:5-3, 122......sounds pretty good to me. Tell your husband to build those pecs and tighten his ass, and increase those arms by 4 inches. He'll shut up. Or buy him a damn skeleton and tell him to screw it. Seriously your husband is starting to irritate me mightily.


Bond-

LOL!
I'll have to try that approach- I bet he won't like it much! :)
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Find something that makes him feel insecure, and then keep bringing it up. (he's not making enough money to support the family, he doesn't have enough muscles, he's got a small wiener, he sucks in bed, etc.). Give him a taste of his own medicine. Or, you could approach him that way - "this is what i feel like when you tell me i'm too fat..."
WK: "Joseph Smith asserted that the Book of Mormon peoples were the original inhabitants of the americas"
Will Schryver: "No, he didn’t." 3/19/08
Still waiting for Will to back this up...
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sailgirl7 wrote:I'll have to try that approach- I bet he won't like it much! :)


Well damn it sounds like you don't like being told to go from a weight that says "I'm damn hot" to "I'm a damn skeleton". Tell him to have three kids and then get back to the shape he was when he was 19 or 21 or whatever. One good verbal slap on the nose with a rolled up newspaper is enough to get most guys with even a lick of common sense to shape up their treatment of their better-halve.
"Whatever appears to be against the Book of Mormon is going to be overturned at some time in the future. So we can be pretty open minded."-charity 3/7/07
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