Hatred for Mormons

[Lem]

You would be correct that I was born into Mormonism and that I think entirely for myself. I also teach my kids to try to do the same. Mormonism is the only religion we follow and use to build a foundation for our family to go out into the world and live a prosperous and meaningful life. The way I look at cojcolds truth claims is all religions are a little quirky, and trying to understand the history of a religion is pointless, in my opinion. I keep my covenants and honor what I think are the most important parts of what Mormonism can offer a true believing member. My ""Mormonism"" begins and ends with a relationship with heavenly father and mother. I often imagine heavenly mother right beside God when I pray. Also, I believe they wouldn't send us down here without supplying us with everything we need to return to them some day. So, that's probably why you think I am viewing Mormonism in a different light than most, because I do, I'll admit that. What your sensing that might be different about my view of Mormonism is, I'm not a follower, the only thing good about sheep is their wool and they taste good. Again, God supplied us with everything we need before sending us down here.
Here's a great quote by Joseph Cambell to help you understand how I view life. " All the god's, All the heavens, all the hell's are within you." I'm in control of my destiny, I teach my kids that they're in control of theirs. No man stands in between them and God, not a prophet, bishop and not me, their dad.

If its not too intrusive, do you and any adult members of your family hold active temple recommends? same regarding having gone on or planning to go on missions? Do you pay 10% tithing? Were you married in the temple? Do you allow the bishop to interview your minor children about their worthiness and sex lives? Do you have callings?

[Atlanticmike]

You would be correct that I was born into Mormonism and that I think entirely for myself. I also teach my kids to try to do the same. Mormonism is the only religion we follow and use to build a foundation for our family to go out into the world and live a prosperous and meaningful life. The way I look at cojcolds truth claims is all religions are a little quirky, and trying to understand the history of a religion is pointless, in my opinion. I keep my covenants and honor what I think are the most important parts of what Mormonism can offer a true believing member. My ""Mormonism"" begins and ends with a relationship with heavenly father and mother. I often imagine heavenly mother right beside God when I pray. Also, I believe they wouldn't send us down here without supplying us with everything we need to return to them some day. So, that's probably why you think I am viewing Mormonism in a different light than most, because I do, I'll admit that. What your sensing that might be different about my view of Mormonism is, I'm not a follower, the only thing good about sheep is their wool and they taste good. Again, God supplied us with everything we need before sending us down here.
Here's a great quote by Joseph Cambell to help you understand how I view life. " All the god's, All the heavens, all the hell's are within you." I'm in control of my destiny, I teach my kids that they're in control of theirs. No man stands in between them and God, not a prophet, bishop and not me, their dad.

If its not too intrusive, do you and any adult members of your family hold active temple recommends? same regarding having gone on or planning to go on missions? Do you pay 10% tithing? Were you married in the temple? Do you allow the bishop to interview your minor children about their worthiness and sex lives? Do you have callings?

My wife and I along with kids are all members. Extended family maybe half members half christian. Wife holds a temple recommend and as of the end of last year I don't, none of my kids do. I never went on a mission, neither did my wife. My girls aren't going on a mission. Payed tithing my whole life up till this past April. My wife and I were sealed in the temple. My kids stop going to bishop interviews a while back.. I always had callings in scouts, I loved it. Now I just fill in where needed.

[Lem]

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Thanks for answering my questions. You had quite a run over on MDDB before you were banned.

[Atlanticmike]

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Thanks for answering my questions. You had quite a run over on MDDB before you were banned.

No problem, nice talking to you. The people over at MDDB are great, I think I got a little to personal and told to many personal stories, that's how i communicate, probably not good for forums like this. I'm going to try to keep the personal stuff to a minimum on here though. Do you post over there?

[Lem]

Thanks for answering my questions. You had quite a run over on MDDB before you were banned.

No problem, nice talking to you. The people over at MDDB are great, I think I got a little to personal and told to many personal stories, that's how i communicate, probably not good for forums like this. I'm going to try to keep the personal stuff to a minimum on here though. Do you post over there?

No.

[Jersey Girl]

Thanks for answering my questions. You had quite a run over on MDDB before you were banned.

No problem, nice talking to you. The people over at MDDB are great, I think I got a little to personal and told to many personal stories, that's how i communicate, probably not good for forums like this. I'm going to try to keep the personal stuff to a minimum on here though. Do you post over there?

I tend to share personal stories as well. I typically try to make them discreet such as vaguely mentioning "a family member" and then try to include details that I think are important. Maybe you felt you were too forthcoming?

I dunno. We do sometimes get personal down here in Paradise having known each other for quite some time and sharing information about our lives.

If you were on our previous board (this is a brand new version) you'd see many instances where folks got personal and lent support to each other or certain groups, or replied with great empathy and concern for others in cases of crisis and/or loss. Maybe that's not exactly the kind of personal you're thinking about.

I dunno. I basically know nothing today.

[Atlanticmike]

No problem, nice talking to you. The people over at MDDB are great, I think I got a little to personal and told to many personal stories, that's how i communicate, probably not good for forums like this. I'm going to try to keep the personal stuff to a minimum on here though. Do you post over there?

I tend to share personal stories as well. I typically try to make them discreet such as vaguely mentioning "a family member" and then try to include details that I think are important. Maybe you felt you were too forthcoming?

I dunno. We do sometimes get personal down here in Paradise having known each other for quite some time and sharing information about our lives.

If you were on our previous board (this is a brand new version) you'd see many instances where folks got personal and lent support to each other or certain groups, or replied with great empathy and concern for others in cases of crisis and/or loss. Maybe that's not exactly the kind of personal you're thinking about.

I dunno. I basically know nothing today.

Haha, I also have days I feel like I know absolutely nothing, usually Mondays. I remember last week you said you like personal stories, I do to, makes it more fun I love learning how other people live I find it fascinating.

[Jersey Girl]

I tend to share personal stories as well. I typically try to make them discreet such as vaguely mentioning "a family member" and then try to include details that I think are important. Maybe you felt you were too forthcoming?

I dunno. We do sometimes get personal down here in Paradise having known each other for quite some time and sharing information about our lives.

If you were on our previous board (this is a brand new version) you'd see many instances where folks got personal and lent support to each other or certain groups, or replied with great empathy and concern for others in cases of crisis and/or loss. Maybe that's not exactly the kind of personal you're thinking about.

I dunno. I basically know nothing today.

Haha, I also have days I feel like I know absolutely nothing, usually Mondays. I remember last week you said you like personal stories, I do to, makes it more fun I love learning how other people live I find it fascinating.

Are you me?

[Dr. Shades]

Atlanticmike:

So, you’ve invented your own religion and are merely pretending that it’s “Mormonism?”

Hmmmmmmm, I was under the impression once you were baptized of water and fire, and receive the gift of the Holy ghost you were always Mormon, no? Seriously though, why do you think I have strayed beyond the boundaries of what "Mormonism" allows?

Because you appear to be cherry-picking the parts that are convenient for you but rejecting the parts that are inconvenient for you, rather than obeying ALL the commandments to the extent that you are able. . . Thus inventing your own religion.

[Atlanticmike]

Hmmmmmmm, I was under the impression once you were baptized of water and fire, and receive the gift of the Holy ghost you were always Mormon, no? Seriously though, why do you think I have strayed beyond the boundaries of what "Mormonism" allows?

Because you appear to be cherry-picking the parts that are convenient for you but rejecting the parts that are inconvenient for you, rather than obeying ALL the commandments to the extent that you are able. . . Thus inventing your own religion.

Well, I have yet to recruit anyone to my "new religion". I haven't asked for a single penny. I haven't appointed anyone in a position of authority. I haven't told anyone I speak directly with a celestial being. Wouldn't you say I kinda suck at inventing a religion?
Actually, I haven't found a Mormon yet who is able to keep all the commandments. Do I hang around the edges, yes. But, up till recently I have always had a temple recommend. Do you know any Mormons who have kept all the commandments?