Too much election crap, not enough Dexter. Come on, peeps.

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Re: Too much election crap, not enough Dexter. Come on, peep

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MsJack wrote:I agree that LaGuerta needed a better exit. I always wanted to see LaGuerta get some kind of comeuppance for her political conniving and backbiting, but this wasn't it. What Dexter initially did to LaGuerta (making it look like she'd tried to frame him, therefore ruining her career) was exactly the kind of comeuppance I wanted her to get, but then they had to go and kill her off. And I wish someone had pointed out the irony of Dexter deciding to kill LaGuerta to protect himself, when that was EXACTLY why Miguel Prado had resolved to kill her in Season 3. I remember Dexter even had a picture of Maria in Miguel's kill room along with Ellen Wolf's picture. There's no longer any real difference between Dexter and the people he has hunted, and that's kind of the show's point, but I wonder how they will recover from that. An audience likes to see its heroes "go bad" for a while, but it also likes to see them return to what they really are and rediscover themselves. But when the "going bad" involves the cold-blooded murder of innocents who are just doing their jobs, is there any real coming back from that?

Good points and interesting thoughts. I agree they've turned a dark corner with this ending. One of the writers was on an interview on Showtime and seemed to suggest part of their thinking is to put distance between the audience and Dexter. Maybe that will be interesting and maybe not. It seems to be working for other shows where the main character is as evil as evil gets (ldsfaqs mentioned two above) but I think you hit the key point above: Dexter has been a hero of sorts so far. A hard turn might be too much for the fans who have been with the show all these years.

I also like and agree with your thoughts on Deb.

Final "unbelievable" moment: LaGuerta went to help Hector Estrada all by herself? And Dexter knew she would be showing up without back-up? Come on.

Exactly. Maybe, maybe, I'd buy that she didn't call for back-up because she was afraid of being made into even more of a fool and wanted to "show them" she was right. But still...taking on Dexter alone when she though he was the Bay Harbor Butcher doesn't seem like LaGuerta. I'd have expected her to bring someone along. She's always been cunningly smart and this was out of character for her. Really, who better to sniff out a trap than a master trap setter?

I'm still annoyed about how they killed her off when it was looking so much more promising.
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ldsfaqs wrote:At the end I was actually expecting the poisoning of Deb to have been actually done by Deb herself to get Dexter away from the crazy girl.

Until Hanna confessed to Dex, I wasn't sure either. Not that I thought she'd do it deliberately, but I wasn't sure if she hadn't put the pills in her own water and accidentally overdosed. There were any number of interesting twists that could have led to. Oh well.
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Season three of Downton Abbey starts January 6, 2013.

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ldsfaqs wrote:At the end I was actually expecting the poisoning of Deb to have been actually done by Deb herself to get Dexter away from the crazy girl. But, that's okay.

That's what I was kind of hoping for, ldsfaqs. I would have enjoyed that twist.

But nope, it was just Hannah being a convincing liar.

ldsfaqs wrote:I'm looking forward to "Breaking Bad" and "The Walking Dead".

I watch Walking Dead myself.

honorentheos wrote: It seems to be working for other shows where the main character is as evil as evil gets (ldsfaqs mentioned two above)

In what sense is the main character of TWD "evil as evil gets"? I assume we're talking about Sheriff Rick here.
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MsJack wrote:
honorentheos wrote: It seems to be working for other shows where the main character is as evil as evil gets (ldsfaqs mentioned two above)

In what sense is the main character of TWD "evil as evil gets"? I assume we're talking about Sheriff Rick here.

Sorry, Ms. Jack, it was a sloppily written comment on my part. I was thinking "Walter/Zombie gore" and keyboard-vomited that one. :redface:

I watched the 1st season of TWD on Bond's recommendation last spring but lost interest an episode or two into the 2nd.

Actually, come to think of it, Bond also recommended Breaking Bad to me as well. Now there is a show that is impossible to put down.
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Hey y'all. I just ran across this on YouTube. It's narrated by Michael C. Hall and produced in cooperation with "The Church of Latter-Day Saints," apparently:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbP9Gfnd-2k
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