No, that is not what was said, and you know it. You are doing the same thing you always do: you take an argument and you replace it with a cartoon version that is easier for you to attack, and then you pretend you are responding to something real.canpakes wrote: ↑Sun Dec 21, 2025 12:21 amI’ve heard it before. Even ajax here has said as much when he claimed that the supposed treatment of Romney by the left so many years ago is what galvanized many right-leaning voters to later go with ‘the asshole’ on the right, regardless of his history of fraud, grift and corruption. When other people hear that excuse, what is the expected reaction?Whiskey wrote: ↑Sat Dec 20, 2025 9:36 pmIt has not been "their" excuse for years. Your suggestion that has ever been "their" excuse says more about you and your stupidity than it does about "they", you damned retard. It takes a special degree of stupid to make up your lies, and more depravity and stupidity to believe them. But, you go panny, do you.
And this excuse has even been given on this board so many dozens of times for acting out and acting badly. I can point you to examples, many from puppet accounts like ‘Atlantic Mike’ (and where is your Hound proxy these days, anyway?).
This isn’t all that bad of a reason, even. It’s just an immature and nonsensical reason given by emotionally crippled individuals. You can always stamp your feet and pretend that the folks who’ve said it and used that excuse didn’t actually say it and use it, but that would just look … retarded of you to do so. But, hey … the alternatives are worse. After all, you can always go with acknowledging that many in the MAGA movement seem driven primarily or exclusively by racism and/or hatred of immigrants. They’re cheering on every example of yanking people out of their lives and kicking them out of the country, even if they are in the midst of the legal citizenship process, and even when they’re showing up to their final interviews. Why? It can’t be that they weren’t playing by the rules, right?
I don’t see much more that MAGA focuses on, and i don’t see the Administration making lives better for Americans in general when we’re trashing our reputation abroad, disparaging our allies and insulting long-term trade partners, turning our backs on any sort of assistance, and playing like Putin’s hand puppet, all while increasing the debt and deficit, and with inflation muddling on and prices on energy, groceries, housing and health care continue their climb.
So what’s in it for MAGA at this point except for the hatred?
And then there’s this:
https://www.southcarolinapublicradio.or ... ?_amp=true
When MAGA suddenly finds itself attempting to resolve tensions between its factions over just how much antisemitism they should embrace, then that’s a sign of serious rot, and an indication of what the movement is largely about.
ETA: predictably, a certain account has just appeared in the ‘who’s online’ list.
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The claim is not, and has never been, “people become racist because the left called them racist.” That is your invention. The claim is that the constant, lazy, hysterical use of accusations like “racist,” “Nazi,” “fascist,” “sexist,” and “evil” as default labels for disagreement drives normal people away from the Democrats and toward other options, whether that means voting Republican, voting third party, or simply disengaging. That is persuasion and backlash. It is not conversion into racism. It is not people suddenly “embracing hatred.” It is people rejecting the lunatic moralizing and the bad-faith character assassination that the loudest fringe turns into the whole brand.
You keep trying to make this about your favorite story, that everything reduces to hatred and racism. That is why you keep misreading what people say. You cannot argue the actual point, so you substitute your own version of it and then act like you found a confession. It is dishonest, and it is why talking to you is a waste of time.
If you want to discuss what I actually said, discuss it. If you want to keep inventing motives and beliefs so you can argue with your own imagination, then own that you are not debating me. You are debating the character in your head.
And, on a positive note, you will not be moderating this thread either, idiot.