So What About Kamala Harris?

[Doctor Steuss]

Binger, just noticed you're posting in SP? I thought you were in prison on death row?

Fun random fact: The stages of grief were meant to be applied to people who were themselves dying, not those who are grieving them (or other forms of "loss"). The researcher who created them studied/interviewed people who were terminal and in their final days/weeks/months of life. The stages were specifically regarding people who were at the end of their own lives.

In other words, avoid the stages of grief... unless you've given up on your own stranglehold on riding this relatively tiny rock barreling through the void.

[ceeboo]

Hey Steuss

Binger, just noticed you're posting in SP? I thought you were in prison on death row?

Fun random fact: The stages of grief were meant to be applied to people who were themselves dying, not those who are grieving them (or other forms of "loss"). The researcher who created them studied/interviewed people who were terminal and in their final days/weeks/months of life. The stages were specifically regarding people who were at the end of their own lives.

Interesting - Thanks! I have always heard these stages of grief in context about people who have lost a loved one.

[Binger]

The major adverse health event has already happened.

I was thinking more along the sudden physically incapacitating variety rather than the mentally (slow burn) incapacitating variety, as those seem to bring about the "come to Jesus" moments that nudge the stubborn from their strongholds.

I understand your point and clarification. If President had a stroke today and couldn't read and communicate, this would be easy and straightforward. Everyone would have cover for moving on. In a case where white male President says he is the first black woman president and that Philadelphia got him over the line in his Delaware election - it is less straightforward.

The issue here is not Biden's age or obvious inability to manage himself and speak coherently. The issue is not the slow decline. The issue is that someone other than him is calling the shots and that for years, not days or months, but YEARS, unknown players have been calling the shots and known media has been covering for Biden. The gaslighting of the "cheap fakes" propaganda is an example of this. Continuing the cover up and excuses is eroding the credibility of the process and of the branch.

Side note - not a point to you or about you, Steuss - excusing the gaslighting and coverup because Trump is worse or because [Nazi, Fascist, Racist, Abortion, Free Hamas] is predictable and not credible but it is good information. It basically tells people, "hey, wink wink, I am lying to you about you so go ahead and treat this argument about a competent President accordingly."

[Binger]

Binger, just noticed you're posting in SP? I thought you were in prison on death row?

Fun random fact: The stages of grief were meant to be applied to people who were themselves dying, not those who are grieving them (or other forms of "loss"). The researcher who created them studied/interviewed people who were terminal and in their final days/weeks/months of life. The stages were specifically regarding people who were at the end of their own lives.

In other words, avoid the stages of grief... unless you've given up on your own stranglehold on riding this relatively tiny rock barreling through the void.

Fascinating. Absolutely fascinating.

The first thought that came to my mind was After Life, with Ricky Gervais. How could one tell the grief stage story in a way that hit home and kept my attention? Like Ricky would tell it, I suppose.

[Kishkumen]

The major adverse health event has already happened.

Also did for Trump.

[Binger]

A claim ceebs thinks is ridiculous is that the Heritage Foundation leadership threatens a 2nd revolution that will be bloodless as long as liberals roll over and let it happen. So is it?

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/0 ... n-00166583

In an emailed statement on Wednesday, Roberts reiterated his comments from the podcast, saying Americans “are in the process of carrying out the Second American Revolution to take power back from the elites and despotic bureaucrats.”

Yo, hono, you going to get your rage on about Chris Mathews too? What about getting a rage for Biden? Need any more quotes where he poos on the elites?

https://x.com/CitizenFreePres/status/18 ... 7379907621

[Binger]

The major adverse health event has already happened.

Also did for Trump.

Unfortunately, even if this is true and if anyone with a megaphone were to say it, it would sound like this, "wolf".

It is not unfortunate that a true statement would be dismissed. It is unfortunate because the wee lads crying wolf think they are still credible, LOL.

[canpakes]

Binger, just noticed you're posting in SP? I thought you were in prison on death row?

I think Xeno is allowing my posts. I am in the queue.

It’s a group effort. : )

[ceeboo]

The issue here is not Biden's age or obvious inability to manage himself and speak coherently. The issue is not the slow decline. The issue is that someone other than him is calling the shots and that for years, not days or months, but YEARS, unknown players have been calling the shots and known media has been covering for Biden. The gaslighting of the "cheap fakes" propaganda is an example of this. Continuing the cover up and excuses is eroding the credibility of the process and of the branch.

Yep - Exactly right. (Another great post, Binger)

[honorentheos]

Whether she could beat Trump head-to-head, replacing Biden as the head of the ticket is one question. The other is for those who are wondering if a vote for Biden is a vote for a future President Harris given how Biden's age is now front of mind for so many. I don't know how many folks are out there who would vote for Biden otherwise but baulk at the idea he might not serve four more years, leaving Harris as President.

Personally, I am becoming more in favor of Biden stepping aside for Harris, if nothing more than transparency and letting voters be the ones who choose her. There's something I think damaging if our first woman President takes office any other way than being directly elected. Don't know.

Well, here we are.