Ajax wrote:If you do it for them, shouldn't you have to do it for all the people of Latin America who live in subhuman conditions? Why just pay the ones who are bold enough to break the law?
Are your really so deceived that you think people who have lived their lives in another country, typically with low education levels and a great deal of poverty, are morally culpable for breaking American laws that are sort of more like stipulations or guidelines in this case?
With your big education and American salary, when you travel to Mexico or another country, do you feel a tremendous responsibility to uphold the unique laws of the country that you're visiting? Would you give a rat's ass if you broke a law of Mexico? I wouldn't.
It's very difficult to determine what we "should" do proactively. Sure, I think we should in general be more concerned about suffering outside of our proximity. But what we should do reactively definitely carries more weight. Shouldn't you be concerned more than you are about an armed robbery of a 7-11 twelve states away? Maybe. But if you are actually in a 7-11 being robbed, it's a little different, eh?
It starts out small and then you have a 16 trillion dollar debt with the government taking 61 cents of every dollar you ever earn.
Then you should invest better because capital gains on large returns is far less than 61%. If you're paying 61%, then you need to get a better tax guy.
It may not be much, but you're sure not paying for the humane treatment of people if you only pay for people who break the law. What about the law biding people in Latin America who we do nothing for? What's humane about that? Is it humane because since they didn't break the law we don't have to see them on our streets so therefore we still have the moral high ground?
There are billions of people suffering in the world. Clearly, if I have to personally alleviate the suffering equally of every person suffering before I alleviate the suffering of any person suffering than I can do nothing. No one in Latin America gives a rat's ass about American immigration laws and lives morally forthright above any other Latin American. It's all a matter of need and opportunity and ambition if one tries to jump the border but another does not.
It should be fair and legal. Funneling tax dollars to illegals and calling it humane treatment isn't fair to anyone.
Stating it doesn't make it so.
We can't afford to pay for every third world person nor every beggar we meet on the street. A law should be made and it shouldn't be changed for those who decide to break it.
Laws are changed all the time for those who decide to break them because either economic forces dictate it so or because the law was immoral or shouldn't really have been the law to begin with. Los Angeles has given up on its automated red-light ticketing because people who decided to run red lights decided to break the law and defend themselves on the matter. You are only presenting a part of the story. If a law is sacred just because it happens to be a law then all Mormons in Missouri should have been killed long ago. California crosses the line in my opinion in its outright evil enforcement of laws on the front end, the cops are fanatics here. But on the backend it's a different story. If you believe in the law, which includes the whole legal process, then you can't just consider driving 75 in a 55 zone to be "illegal", nor the ticket you got for doing so, but the court decision that either upholds or rejects the ticket. Many laws are in a state of limbo because they seem trivial to enforce on the front end but on the back end are more complicated. You can appeal to "the law" all you want, but no one with half a brain will listen. And when you're talking about people trying to save their families it's even more difficult to take seriously. You know, many folks broke the law to leave Nazi Germany, did you ever watch, "The Sound of Music"?
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