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I could change my mind

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2022 4:59 pm
by doubtingthomas
"Smuggling Migrants at the Border Now a Billion-Dollar Business...Migrant smuggling on the U.S. southern border has evolved over the past 10 years from a scattered network of freelance “coyotes” into a multi-billion-dollar international business controlled by organized crime, including some of Mexico’s most violent drug cartels."
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/25/us/m ... ution.html

"The Mexican Drug Cartels’ Other Business: Sex Trafficking"
https://world.time.com/2013/07/31/the-m ... afficking/

Just connecting the dots here. Some undocumented immigrants pay the cartels (sex traffickers) thousands of dollars to get them to the US, work here for a few years in construction or roofing, and go back to Mexico to buy nice houses.

I'm not sure why everyone is turning a blind eye.

I am not against all illegal immigration. I would welcome real refugees here.

However, young undocumented immigrants who live in large groups (all men, not families) were likely associated with Mexican cartels.

Re: Matt Gaetz sought pardon related to Justice Department sex trafficking probe

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2022 6:35 pm
by Doctor CamNC4Me
Matt Gaetz had sex with minors.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/joel-gree ... with-minor

tl;dr - Matt Gaetz had sex with minors.

- Doc

Re: Matt Gaetz sought pardon related to Justice Department sex trafficking probe

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2022 6:56 pm
by doubtingthomas
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Tue Sep 20, 2022 6:35 pm

tl;dr - Matt Gaetz had sex with minors.
And undocumented immigrants who pay child sex traffickers don't have 14 year old wives waiting for them back in Mexico?

Re: Matt Gaetz sought pardon related to Justice Department sex trafficking probe

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2022 7:03 pm
by doubtingthomas
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Tue Sep 20, 2022 6:35 pm
Matt Gaetz had sex with minors.
- Doc
Illegal in Florida, but 17 is legal in the vast majority of states, as long as no one crosses state lines and no one gets paid.

So, I guess it's okay when undocumented immigrants pay child sex traffickers?

Re: Matt Gaetz sought pardon related to Justice Department sex trafficking probe

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2022 7:05 pm
by doubtingthomas
It's sad no one is brave enough to acknowledge the problem. I don't understand why I'm the only one seeing it.

Re: Matt Gaetz sought pardon related to Justice Department sex trafficking probe

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2022 7:25 pm
by Doctor Steuss
USCPB issues regular releases for child predator arrests.

The problem is acknowledged.

ICE, HSI, and agencies in South America arrested 113 child predators in the US, and South America in a single sting operation.

The problem is acknowledged.

Less than a month ago, Border Patrol nabbed a child rapist while they were trying to get back into the US.

The problem is acknowledged.

Just 4 days ago, Border Patrol agents arrested a child sex offender in Laredo.

The problem is acknowledged.

Your ignorance of efforts, and your newfound righteous indignation doesn't mean everyone else is ignoring it, or cowards.

Are you brave enough to admit the problem of an adult man having a relationship with a 17-year-old minor?

Re: Matt Gaetz sought pardon related to Justice Department sex trafficking probe

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2022 8:44 pm
by Xenophon
I think Res probably captured the sentiment as well as it can be. This is little more than you venting your spleen in connection with your new-found hatred for a particular people. You don't actually want to discuss the problem you want to bash your current favorite bogeyman. There are plenty of serious conversations on the topic, this ain't one.

Re: Matt Gaetz sought pardon related to Justice Department sex trafficking probe

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2022 11:19 pm
by Res Ipsa
Doctor Steuss wrote:
Tue Sep 20, 2022 7:25 pm
USCPB issues regular releases for child predator arrests.

The problem is acknowledged.

ICE, HSI, and agencies in South America arrested 113 child predators in the US, and South America in a single sting operation.

The problem is acknowledged.

Less than a month ago, Border Patrol nabbed a child rapist while they were trying to get back into the US.

The problem is acknowledged.

Just 4 days ago, Border Patrol agents arrested a child sex offender in Laredo.

The problem is acknowledged.

Your ignorance of efforts, and your newfound righteous indignation doesn't mean everyone else is ignoring it, or cowards.

Are you brave enough to admit the problem of an adult man having a relationship with a 17-year-old minor?
"I'm the only one who sees the problem," says man who never bothers to look for others actually working on the problem.

Re: Matt Gaetz sought pardon related to Justice Department sex trafficking probe

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:44 pm
by doubtingthomas
Res Ipsa wrote:
Tue Sep 20, 2022 11:19 pm

"I'm the only one who sees the problem," says man who never bothers to look for others actually working on the problem.
"Not surprisingly, smuggling fees for destinations distant from the border are higher than the $700-$1,000 it takes to get from Tijuana to Los Angeles, which raises the question of how illegal immigrants manage their debts to the smugglers."
https://www.brookings.edu/opinions/the- ... -networks/

"Nearly all—between 80 and 95 percent—of illegal crossers are paying to come, with smuggling fees reportedly as high as $9,200 a person"
https://www.cato.org/publications/comme ... rtels-come

Do undocumented immigrants get arrested for paying smugglers (sex traffickers) thousands of dollars?

Re: Matt Gaetz sought pardon related to Justice Department sex trafficking probe

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:46 pm
by honorentheos
DT,

Didn't you suggest you were in a relationship with a 17 year old girl from Mexico a short time ago? Is it possible you are deflecting?