DT, you’ve rejected all advice given to you and continue to exist in this incel headspace. You’re caught in your own gravity well of your own making. Your path will lead to more suffering. Get off it.
- Doc
I understand Doc, but you have to respond to this.
In most cultures and countries, young men in their early 20s are allowed to talk to younger women, nobody judges them. In the US, the law does allow young men in their early 20s to talk to younger women, it's society that doesn't allow them.
Just for clarification, there's nothing unsettling about that, Marcus.
"I have the type of (REAL) job where I can choose how to spend my time," says Marcus.
This thread isn't about what Jordan Peterson thinks. Nice derailment, Marcus.
The paper you referenced in the OP isn’t a study, and it’s not research. It’s an editorial. It refers to some studies, but the main point is captured in the part that I already quoted that referred to the Jordan paper. From the concluding paragraphs:
Sexual loneliness has nevertheless become a pressing public health problem that needs serious bioethical analysis and thoughtful solutions. These bioethical analyses could include (but perhaps should not be limited to) critical evaluations of claims made by opposing ideological camps.
For instance, consider the following claim, raised by Jordan Peterson: societies should alleviate sexual loneliness by enforcing socially-promoted and culturally-inculcated monogamy.16
Philosophical bioethicists could make valuable contributions to the discussion by analyzing claims like the one above and evaluating whether they are logically consistent and conceptually coherent with the agent’s other commitments.17
The results could remain conditional: “If you want this-and-this, you ought (not) to do that-and-that.”
How do you know? From personal experience perhaps?
No precept or claim is more suspect or more likely to be false than one that can only be supported by invoking the claim of Divine authority for it--no matter who or what claims such authority.
In most cultures and countries, young men in their early 20s are allowed to talk to younger women, nobody judges them. In the US, the law does allow young men in their early 20s to talk to younger women, it's society that doesn't allow them.
Just for clarification, there's nothing unsettling about that, Marcus.
If I caught a guy in his early 20's talking to my soon to be high school aged (14 yo next week) daughter a talking to would be the last conversation they had with me. I'm not saying I'd kill them, but that they would be in handcuffs and rightly in jail awaiting sentence. At my age 18 year old girls look like adolescent. Even at the age of 18 middle school girls looked too young. That's because they are. You really think it's OK for a 20 year old to be with a 14 year old? If that isn't unsettling you need your head chacked.
It is when you make repeated posts regarding incel culture. We start to wonder about your motives for doing it so often.
Aren't you worried about more violence in the US?
Not anymore.
I want to know your opinion about this.
In order to have an opinion about this "Andrew Tate" character I'd first have to know, or care, who the Hell he is.
I'm surprised you haven't heard about him. He is very much in the news now. He is an ex-kickboxer who has been involved in and arrested for sex-trafficking, kidnapping, raping and imprisoning women. I suggest you google him. He is a misogynistic and sadistic monster who regards women as nothing but sexual objects to be exploited and dominated for his own pleasure and profit.
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No precept or claim is more suspect or more likely to be false than one that can only be supported by invoking the claim of Divine authority for it--no matter who or what claims such authority.