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They Come to America

Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2025 6:28 pm
by bill4long
If USA is so white-racist and horrible, why do so many non-whites want to come here?

Re: They Come to America

Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2025 5:12 am
by huckelberry
Simple reason they have some nonwhite relatives living here. They are betting they can outlast a dwindling group of white racists.

Re: They Come to America

Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2025 10:09 am
by bill4long
huckelberry wrote:
Sun Dec 28, 2025 5:12 am
bill4long wrote:
Sat Dec 27, 2025 6:28 pm
If USA is so white-racist and horrible, why do so many non-whites want to come here?
Simple reason they have some nonwhite relatives living here. They are betting g they can outlast a dwindling group of white racists.
The simple reason? That's the primary reason? No other reasons?

Re: They Come to America

Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2025 1:14 pm
by Chap
bill4long wrote:
Sat Dec 27, 2025 6:28 pm
If USA is so white-racist and horrible, why do so many non-whites want to come here?
OK, I'll bite. I think that your escape from puzzlement on this issue lies in separating two things:

(a) The views of the USA taken by people in some other countries who have never been to the USA, and who regard it as a place offering rewards for hard work and talent that they cannot hope to get in their homelands.

(b) The views of the USA taken by informed observers of its society and internal politics, which may include a recognition that some Americans have strongly negative attitudes to people who have come to the USA from other countries, particularly if they are non-Christians and have a dark skin colour.

Re: They Come to America

Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2025 3:52 pm
by Whiskey
Chap wrote:
Sun Dec 28, 2025 1:14 pm
bill4long wrote:
Sat Dec 27, 2025 6:28 pm
If USA is so white-racist and horrible, why do so many non-whites want to come here?
OK, I'll bite. I think that your escape from puzzlement on this issue lies in separating two things:

(a) The views of the USA taken by people in some other countries who have never been to the USA, and who regard it as a place offering rewards for hard work and talent that they cannot hope to get in their homelands.

(b) The views of the USA taken by informed observers of its society and internal politics, which may include a recognition that some Americans have strongly negative attitudes to people who have come to the USA from other countries, particularly if they are non-Christians and have a dark skin colour.
Is thing (b) a view held by most non-Christians?

Re: They Come to America

Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2025 4:40 pm
by bill4long
Chap wrote:
Sun Dec 28, 2025 1:14 pm
bill4long wrote:
Sat Dec 27, 2025 6:28 pm
If USA is so white-racist and horrible, why do so many non-whites want to come here?
OK, I'll bite. I think that your escape from puzzlement on this issue lies in separating two things:non-Christians and have a dark skin colour.
I'm not puzzled.

May I ask, how old are you, what do you do for a living, and do you have dependents? And your political views.

My motive is not to change your mind. I'm interested in the views of citizens and those livimg here with permission.

Re: They Come to America

Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2025 5:30 pm
by Gadianton
The USA isn't white racist and horrible. Surprisingly, Whiskey hasn't objected to your characterization of Americans as he did the people of Kaysville.

Sure, there are a growing number of horrible white racists, and a few more in power than usual, but there are horrible people of all races aligning themselves with the present regime so I don't see racism per se as that big of an issue. It's a useful way to get noticed on social media mainly, to the extent it's a problem.

Re: They Come to America

Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2025 5:37 pm
by Chap
Chap wrote:
Sun Dec 28, 2025 1:14 pm
bill4long wrote:
Sat Dec 27, 2025 6:28 pm
If USA is so white-racist and horrible, why do so many non-whites want to come here?
OK, I'll bite. I think that your escape from puzzlement on this issue lies in separating two things:

(a) The views of the USA taken by people in some other countries who have never been to the USA, and who regard it as a place offering rewards for hard work and talent that they cannot hope to get in their homelands.

(b) The views of the USA taken by informed observers of its society and internal politics, which may include a recognition that some Americans have strongly negative attitudes to people who have come to the USA from other countries, particularly if they are non-Christians and have a dark skin colour.
bill4long wrote:
Sun Dec 28, 2025 4:40 pm
I'm not puzzled.
You put your question as a puzzle. I answered it.

Re: They Come to America

Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2025 5:42 pm
by bill4long
Gadianton wrote:
Sun Dec 28, 2025 5:30 pm
there are a growing number of horrible white racists
Can you inpack that a bit? What exactly are you saying? Particularly with regard to illegal immigrants.

Re: They Come to America

Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2025 5:51 pm
by Gadianton
what does "inpack" mean?