Hi Ajax, I don't know and haven't had time to look into this specific example. I am not ignoring you, though, and will get back to this later when I can actually speak to the example you raise.ajax18 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 4:16 pmLet me states this a little a better. I agree with Ben Shapiro that the mainstream media, Silicon valley etc. suppression of information and bias was the biggest voter fraud that went on in this election. And that's kind of fits more to my point when you look at the biased manner in which Facebook, Twitter, etc. treat conservative speech but let other speech that has led to violence go uncensored.honorentheos wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:24 pmAjax, do you believe the election was won by Donald Trump but stolen from him somehow?
Do you disagree with Ben Shapiro on the double standard displayed in censoring or not censoring Al Sharpton? That's what I'd like to hear your take on.
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Ben is a damned moron and so are you for blindly swallowing everything he throws at you. The so called "Anti-Semitism" of Rev Sharpton is based on an incident from 30 years ago well before the internet, let alone Twitter, when a Hasidic Jew killed a little black girl and that led to violence between the black and Jewish communities. You're not providing any direct quotations from anything Sharpton has said, all you're doing is relaying a description from the perspective of Ben who is both a Jew and a Liar. Sharpton has denied saying any of the things attributed to him by Right Wing idiots desperately looking for a false equivalence.ajax18 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:17 pmBen illustrates a very good example of the double standard the left is implementing with their unchecked coalition of power between the federal government, Silicon Valley, Big Corporations, globalist billionaire oligarchs, and of course the mainstream media.
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Here is why I'm so skeptical of these claims about threats to the public, because they are wildly inconsistent, like insanely inconsistent. It turns out the only people who are, quote unquote threats to public peace are precisely the people that the left doesn't like anyway. So let me take what I think is perhaps the best example of this ever. So Keith Boykin is a CNN commentator. So he he tweeted out over the weekend, quote, Imagine the scenario.
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Reverend Al Sharpton holds a rally and tells his supporters to take back their country with strength and combat. Then five people die after Black Lives Matter activists stormed the US Capitol. How would Fox News and congressional Republicans respond? This is such an unbelievably great example of how the left just doesn't have it's not that the left has has a double standards, that the left doesn't have the standard. The standard is that if you are a conservative, you are bad and we will hold you accountable for anybody, anything anybody says he actually used Reverend Al Sharpton in an example of what would people do if somebody inciting a riot.
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If you're talking about borderline incitement of rioting, Al Sharpton did that twice, two times. He literally did it in Crown Heights in 1991 when he said at a funeral for a black kid who was who was hit by a car driven by a Hasidic Jew, he said if they want to get it on, let him pin on my pin back their yarmulke and come on over to my house like a riot in Crown Heights ensued. An Orthodox Jew, Yankel Rosenbaum, was killed.
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Then a few years later, there was a store called Freddy's Fashion Mart. It was not, in fact, owned by Jews. It was in fact, run. It was subleased to a Jew. In any case, he suggested that diamond merchants had invaded the neighborhood. OK, and this resulted in one of the people who was at one of his rallies going and burning Freddie fashion, Mark, ending in the death of at least one person. So what happened?
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Al Sharpton, good question. Well, let's see, he ran for president in 2004 on the Democratic side of the aisle. He was visited by every major Democratic candidate this year in order to receive their blessing. He has a show on MSNBC and he gets to comment on stuff like this. So, Keith Boykin, it seems like there is no standard when it comes to people on the left. Bernie Sanders can use rhetoric so incendiary that a person goes and tries to murder congresspeople and that results in him nearly winning the Democratic presidential nomination.
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Al Sharpton is the most well respected, quote unquote, civil rights leader. He's a scam artist and a grifter. He's he's one of the most respected civil rights leaders on the left after having participated in rhetoric so incendiary that two riots ensued. And you're telling me that there's there's [no] double standard here.
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Ben got a near perfect score on his LSAT. Do you actually think Ben has a low IQ or is this just your way of saying you think he's immoral?Ben is a damned moron and so are you for blindly swallowing everything he throws at you.
We're talking about censor of so called incendiary speech. Sharpton's speech incited the killing of a Jewish man. Yet the Reverend Al still has his own show on MSNBC. Don't try to tell me that the left's push to censor incendiary speech is dependent of upon whether it results in violent outcomes when they're only willing to censor people they disagree with.The so called "Anti-Semitism" of Rev Sharpton is based on an incident from 30 years ago well before the internet, let alone Twitter,
wowBen who is both a Jew and a Liar.
So you don't think Sharpton was every guilty of incendiary rhetoric that led to violence? Is that your position?Sharpton has denied saying any of the things attributed to him by Right Wing idiots desperately looking for a false equivalence.
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Ben Shapiro is a political whore who is intellectually dishonest. He's right up your ally.ajax18 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:09 pmBen got a near perfect score on his LSAT. Do you actually think Ben has a low IQ or is this just your way of saying you think he's immoral?Ben is a damned moron and so are you for blindly swallowing everything he throws at you.
We're talking about censor of so called incendiary speech. Sharpton's speech incited the killing of a Jewish man. Yet the Reverend Al still has his own show on MSNBC. Don't try to tell me that the left's push to censor incendiary speech is dependent of upon whether it results in violent outcomes when they're only willing to censor people they disagree with.The so called "Anti-Semitism" of Rev Sharpton is based on an incident from 30 years ago well before the internet, let alone Twitter,
wowBen who is both a Jew and a Liar.
So you don't think Sharpton was every guilty of incendiary rhetoric that led to violence? Is that your position?Sharpton has denied saying any of the things attributed to him by Right Wing idiots desperately looking for a false equivalence.
My position is that I don't care anything about what Al Sharpton said or did 30 years ago because he's nothing to me. He's nothing to Democrats. He's just a guy. He isn't the President. He isn't successfully causing people to die because of his rhetoric. That would be Donald Trump. The fact that you have to go back 30 years to find something you could use as a false equivalence says plenty about how there is no equivalence at all. Twitter and Facebook didn't exist in 1991 so how is this hypocrisy from them for not blocking someone whose record over the last 30 years has been anything but the promotion of violence?
Having said that, Twitter and Facebook regularly censor dumb Left Wing memes all the time so they're not being political they are simply being pro-reality/ pro-truth. Its just that there aren't nearly as many lying memes on the Left and the Left isn't dependent on an army of bloggers producing a slew of dishonest talking points that are easily debunked. The reason the Right is so upset about this is because it seriously affects their ability to recruit idiots like you with false information and lies.
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It's not just about Facebook or Twitter. We're talking about the left taking this chance to control and suppress information that doesn't fit their agenda. I just showed up thread how CNN thinks Fox News should be censored and any cable provider who offers them a channel should be severely fined.My position is that I don't care anything about what Al Sharpton said or did 30 years ago because he's nothing to me. He's nothing to Democrats. He's just a guy. He isn't the President. He isn't successfully causing people to die because of his rhetoric. That would be Donald Trump. The fact that you have to go back 30 years to find something you could use as a false equivalence says plenty about how there is no equivalence at all. Twitter and Facebook didn't exist in 1991 so how is this hypocrisy from them for not blocking someone whose record over the last 30 years has been anything but the promotion of violence?
And when the Confederates saw Jackson standing fearless like a stonewall, the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
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Exactly. Given that misinformation and lies are their only rhetoric tools, it must feel like people are telling them to shut up, because BS is all they have to offer.
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It appears ajax thinks the media should be able to lie to their heart's content. Not surprising, since that's his personal code as well.
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Which is more horse crap that doesn't even begin to make sense. You folks are so dishonest on the Right the way you conjure up more idiotic conspiracies making "The Left" your boogeyman. Only an idiot would say recent banning of Trump's social media is about "The Left" trying to control information. Facebook and Twitter isn't "The Left." It isn't controlling information, it is mitigating the proliferation of dangerous, hateful rhetoric. And if you want someone to blame, then blame the idiots who stormed Capitol Hill with the intent of setting off bombs, kidnapping Senators and murdering the VP.ajax18 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 10:30 pmIt's not just about Facebook or Twitter. We're talking about the left taking this chance to control and suppress information that doesn't fit their agenda. I just showed up thread how CNN thinks Fox News should be censored and any cable provider who offers them a channel should be severely fined.My position is that I don't care anything about what Al Sharpton said or did 30 years ago because he's nothing to me. He's nothing to Democrats. He's just a guy. He isn't the President. He isn't successfully causing people to die because of his rhetoric. That would be Donald Trump. The fact that you have to go back 30 years to find something you could use as a false equivalence says plenty about how there is no equivalence at all. Twitter and Facebook didn't exist in 1991 so how is this hypocrisy from them for not blocking someone whose record over the last 30 years has been anything but the promotion of violence?
But blaming the left is how you must frame it because otherwise you may be forced to take responsibility for your own actions. Party of self responsibility my ass.
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Ajax lies again. He quoted one CNN Business reporter. Not "CNN." But that's how the right does this. One guy says something, suddenly it was his employer who said it, then it's the view of the whole left.
More violent insurrection is coming. Because Ajax and his friends have decided they want it.
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As I have indicated before, to people like Trump and his sycophants, like Ajax, the First Amendment right of freedom of speech means the right to lie unconscionably with complete impunity, whenever they feel it necessary to further their agenda, and complete immunity from any fact checking whatsoever.Some Schmo wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 11:24 pmIt appears ajax thinks the media should be able to lie to their heart's content. Not surprising, since that's his personal code as well.
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